Jim,
During your time @ Elam, did you have to earn your pants and laces as a new resident? I did, but later that was phased out and very rarely did a shot down or even a corner person for that matter have their laces taken away.
It used to go when I first came in, I had to earn pants and laces and wear sweats for about 2 weeks. You actaully would get your pants privs after a week of being there, then the following week earn your laces.
Then when one was shotdown, he/she would automatically loose their laces and pant privs and have to wear sweats during their SD punishment.
Not long after my arrival, this was all phased out and it seemed like the rules became alot easier.
I can only imagine how bad the old school people like you, arthur, and others during that time had it bad.
Arthur used to say that we were in a water downed elan, which I can see his point, because we had alot less bullshit to go through unlike you guys did.
I was just wondering , what other hard times did your era have to go through?