men and women ,Ladies and Gentleman and Glen Frey

[Antigen]

Reporter, I thought it was common knowledge. I didn't really scrutinize this, I just took it for granted as it's the same location/ISP. For all I know, it might be Art's ex wife, sister, cousin or daughter.

Thing is, yenz will never ever agree about who started the obscenity because yenz have completely different definitions of the word.

Creationists make it sound like a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night.
--Isaac Asimov, Russian-born American author

[The Elan Reporter]

Eudora, this war between me and him has been going on for years now. What started the whole damn thing was what I was writing about Marty and the rest of the goons up there in Maine. Arthur objected to the material which then turned into this long war.

When I first encountered arthur here objecting to what I wrote about Marty, I pegged him for an Elan supporter. Over time arthur showed different views of elan which then led me to believe I was wrong about him supporting elan in that fashion.

A fuck you here, a fuck you there then turned into a personal battle feild with the guy. The stupid anonymous agreeing with himself crap then came about, which fed the war even more.

There were occassions where we tried to get along and a couple of times gave ourselves a shot to get along, but at every possible truce offering, he somehow turned into  a snake over time.

Then there was the time where arthur offered an oral sex invite to all I believe who opposed him. Then it caught the attention of another user who then cmae up with the word (pedophile) and soon labled arthur one. I mean art had no idea of the sex and age of these people he was addressing this sick proposition too. What the hell else would he think people would think of him? A porn king?

Now if we take a little trip back memory lane to where Syn requested that everything get along for just one day. Well I played along, and carried on conversations with Jimmy, and Screan, but I think that really bothered arthur and he didnt like to see his friends talking with me.

Ofcoarse what followed next was his baiting/insults then BAM! The board was back to its usual fights. Arthur soon caught the attention of Mr.Bus which whom took a disliking to arthur and then there was even more fighting going on between him.

[The Elan Reporter]

On 2006-03-06 17:54:00, Eudora wrote:

"Reporter, I thought it was common knowledge. I didn't really scrutinize this, I just took it for granted as it's the same location/ISP. For all I know, it might be Art's ex wife, sister, cousin or daughter.



Thing is, yenz will never ever agree about who started the obscenity because yenz have completely different definitions of the word.

Creationists make it sound like a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night.
--Isaac Asimov, Russian-born American author

"

Or maybe it's that ersatz family attroney he has been rambling on about?

[Anonymous]

On 2006-03-06 17:35:00, Eudora wrote:

"

On 2006-03-06 11:55:00, Anonymous wrote:


Its obviously futile to post privately or think

Obviously you've got it backwards. You're supposed to think first before you post private messages. I would never have done that if you hadn't just yesterday done the same, even though it was most delicious. Fornits an AA meeting, indeed!  :rofl:

What a snake you are Eudora. That was somebodies private message.  I think it's pretty clear just how much you can be trusted.

[Anonymous]

On 2006-03-06 17:54:00, Eudora wrote:

"Reporter, I thought it was common knowledge. I didn't really scrutinize this, I just took it for granted as it's the same location/ISP. For all I know, it might be Art's ex wife, sister, cousin or daughter.



Thing is, yenz will never ever agree about who started the obscenity because yenz have completely different definitions of the word.

My, you're quite technically adept Eudora. What a fine investigator you are!

Let's all guess this through together.

Art and wtf2 are both in the chicago area. Not too many people there. That is too uncanny to be coincidence!

Art and wtf2 seem to have the same isp. Let me guess. I know who wtf2 is and I know SHE uses cable to access the internet. So art must have comcast as his cable compny too. Oh my gosh!!  They both have comcast! What a freakin coincidence! Comcast is the worlds largest cable company, the worlds second largest isp. Art and wtf2 both use it. My freakin gosh! Another uncanny similarity.

The clues just keep adding up! They MUST be the same person.

Art is a man, wtf2 is a woman, they live almost two hours driving time apart and aren't related to each other.

The only similarity between the is that they both use the worlds largest cable company to access the internet and that they both live in one of the biggest metropolitan areas in the united states.

geeze, you're good!

Why don't you take a stab at the kennedy assassination next.

[Anonymous]

On 2006-03-06 14:09:00, WTF2 wrote:

"Iam not art I dont whos saying Iam, or WTF IP your viewing. I am a friend of Arts STOP THE LIES! "

Do you happen to be posting, or have you posted from Art's PC?


They've both done their share of lying.  I ain't buying much of what either one has to say.  Incidentally, don't I remember Art talking a long time ago about being some kind of executive director or ass't. director at Elan?  I could have sworn I read that but I could be wrong.

[Antigen]

Why thank you, Anon! That's probably the nicest thing you'll ever say about me!

"I observed on one of the drums belonging to the marines there was painted a Rattle-Snake, with this modest motto under it, "Don't tread on me." As I know it is the custom to have some device on the arms of every country, I supposed this may have been intended for the arms of America; and as I have nothing to do with public affairs, and as my time is perfectly my own, in order to divert an idle hour, I sat down to guess what could have been intended by this uncommon device - I took care, however, to consult on this occasion a person who is acquainted with heraldry, from whom I learned, that it is a rule among the learned of that science "That the worthy properties of the animal, in the crest-born, shall be considered," and, "that the base ones cannot have been intended;" he likewise informed me that the ancients considered the serpent as an emblem of wisdom, and in a certain attitude of endless duration - both which circumstances I suppose may have been had in view.

Having gained this intelligence, and recollecting that countries are sometimes represented by animals peculiar to them, it occurred to me that the Rattle-SNake is found in no other quarter of the world besides America, and may therefore have been chosen, on that account, to represent her.

But then "the wordly properties" of a Snake I judged would be hard to point out. This rather raised than suppressed my curiosity, and having frequently seen the Rattle-Snake, I ran over in my mind every property by which she was distinguished, not only from other animals, but from those of the same genus or class of animals, endeavoring to fix some meaning to each, not wholly inconsistent with common sense.

I recollected that her eye excelled in brightness, that of any other animal, and that she has no eye-lids. She may therefore be esteemed an emblem of vigilance. She never begins an attack, nor, when once engaged, ever surrenders: She is therefore an emblem of magnanimity and true courage. As if anxious to prevent all pretensions of quarreling with her, the weapons with which nature has furnished her, she conceals in the roof of her mouth, so that, to those who are unacquainted with her, she appears to be a most defenseless animal; and even when those weapons are shown and extended for her defense, they appear weak and contemptible; but their wounds however small, are decisive and fatal. Conscious of this, she never wounds 'till she has generously given notice, even to her enemy, and cautioned him against the danger of treading on her.

Was I wrong, Sir, in thinking this a strong picture of the temper and conduct of America? The poison of her teeth is the necessary means of digesting her food, and at the same time is certain destruction to her enemies. This may be understood to intimate that those things which are destructive to our enemies, may be to us not only harmless, but absolutely necessary to our existence. I confess I was wholly at a loss what to make of the rattles, 'till I went back and counted them and found them just thirteen, exactly the number of the Colonies united in America; and I recollected too that this was the only part of the Snake which increased in numbers. Perhaps it might be only fancy, but, I conceited the painter had shown a half formed additional rattle, which, I supppose, may have been intended to represent the province of Canada.

'Tis curious and amazing to observe how distinct and independent of each other the rattles of this animal are, and yet how firmly they are united together, so as never to be separated but by breaking them to pieces. One of those rattles singly, is incapable of producing sound, but the ringing of thirteen together, is sufficient to alarm the boldest man living.

The Rattle-Snake is solitary, and associates with her kind only when necessary for their preservation. In winter, the warmth of a number together will preserve their lives, while singly, they would probably perish. The power of fascination attributed to her, by a generous construction, may be understood to mean, that those who consider the liberty and blessings which America affords, and once come over to her, never afterwards leave her, but spend their lives with her. She strongly resembles America in this, that she is beautiful in youth and her beauty increaseth with her age, "her tongue also is blue and forked as the lightning, and her abode is among impenetrable rocks."

--Benjamin Franklin as published in the Pennsylvania Journal on December 27, 1775.

Turn about's fair play. Don't tread on me, suckuh!

The orientation of the public school in and of itself disenfranchises the poor.  It suggests that only the student can be held responsible for failure; the institution, because of its position and strength in society, is unassailable.
--Rodger Hurley

[The Elan Reporter]

On 2006-03-07 09:58:00, Anonymous wrote:

"

On 2006-03-06 17:54:00, Eudora wrote:


"Reporter, I thought it was common knowledge. I didn't really scrutinize this, I just took it for granted as it's the same location/ISP. For all I know, it might be Art's ex wife, sister, cousin or daughter.





Thing is, yenz will never ever agree about who started the obscenity because yenz have completely different definitions of the word.

My, you're quite technically adept Eudora. What a fine investigator you are!



Let's all guess this through together.



Art and wtf2 are both in the chicago area. Not too many people there. That is too uncanny to be coincidence!



Art and wtf2 seem to have the same isp. Let me guess. I know who wtf2 is and I know SHE uses cable to access the internet. So art must have comcast as his cable compny too. Oh my gosh!!  They both have comcast! What a freakin coincidence! Comcast is the worlds largest cable company, the worlds second largest isp. Art and wtf2 both use it. My freakin gosh! Another uncanny similarity.



The clues just keep adding up! They MUST be the same person.



Art is a man, wtf2 is a woman, they live almost two hours driving time apart and aren't related to each other.



The only similarity between the is that they both use the worlds largest cable company to access the internet and that they both live in one of the biggest metropolitan areas in the united states.



geeze, you're good!



Why don't you take a stab at the kennedy assassination next. "

But two seperate people sharing the same ip address? Not possible. If that is what Eudora is saying. From my opinion, I assume that wtf2 and art have the SAME ip address which brought to the conclusion that they are the same.

[Antigen]

On 2006-03-07 12:00:00, The Elan Reporter wrote:




But two seperate people sharing the same ip address? Not possible.

Actually, quite common. If WTF2 is visiting Art, for example, he/she could post from his puter. That's what I assumed I was looking at. But, as I say, didn't look all that closely. Never figured yenz would take an offhand remark of mine so deadly seriously.

Regardless, whether WTF2 is Art or just a friend, the avatar still gives a clue what their objective may be. Not evidence, not emperical, irrefutable proof, mind you. Just something to think about.

Neither in my private life nor in my writings, have I ever made a secret of being an out-and-out unbeliever.
--Sigmund Freud, Austrian-born psychologist

[Anonymous]

for my anon 2 cents,, reporter and his goon  squad  sure were having fun at arts , and others expense, now reporter wants to talk,,, i say fuck him. ive seen that manipulation to many times. prolly a trick he learned in elan, personally,, i would never share anything  real w/ him for fear of it being used in another smear campaign.the reality is if these moderators didnt show up with  abilitiy to read ips,, he and his cronnies  would still be flinging the shit

[Anonymous]

1. As used in this act:

"Information content provider" means any person or entity that is responsible, in whole or in part, for the creation or development of information provided through the Internet or any other interactive computer service.

"Interactive computer service" means any information system, service, or access software provider that provides or enables computer access by multiple users to a computer server, including specifically a service or system that provides service to the Internet.

"Internet" means the international computer network of both federal and non-federal interoperable packet switched data networks.

"Internet service provider" or "provider" means any person, business or organization qualified to do business in this State that provides individuals, corporations, or other entities with the ability to connect to the Internet through equipment that is located in this State.

"Operator" means any person, business or organization qualified to do business in this State that operates an interactive computer service.



2. The operator of any interactive computer service or an Internet service provider shall establish, maintain and enforce a policy to require any information content provider who posts written messages on a public forum website either to be identified by a legal name and address, or to register a legal name and address with the operator of the interactive computer service or the Internet service provider through which the information content provider gains access to the interactive computer service or Internet, as appropriate.



3. An operator of an interactive computer service or an Internet service provider shall establish and maintain reasonable procedures to enable any person to request and obtain disclosure of the legal name and address of an information content provider who posts false or defamatory information about the person on a public forum website.



4. Any person who is damaged by false or defamatory written messages that originate from an information content provider who posts such messages on a public forum website may file suit in Superior Court against an operator or provider that fails to establish, maintain and enforce the policy required pursuant to section 2 of P.C.) (pending before the Legislature as this bill), and may recover compensatory and punitive damages and the cost of the suit, including a reasonable attorney's fee, cost of investigation and litigation from such operator or provider.



5. This act shall take effect on the 90th day following enactment.





STATEMENT



This bill would require an operator of any interactive computer service or an Internet service provider to establish, maintain and enforce a policy requiring an information content provider who posts messages on a public forum website either to be identified by legal name and address or to register a legal name and address with the operator or provider prior to posting messages on a public forum website.

The bill requires an operator of an interactive computer service or an Internet service provider to establish and maintain reasonable procedures to enable any person to request and obtain disclosure of the legal name and address of an information content provider who posts false or defamatory information about the person on a public forum website.

In addition, the bill makes any operator or Internet service provider liable for compensatory and punitive damages as well as costs of a law suit filed by a person damaged by the posting of such messages if the operator or Internet service provider fails to establish, maintain and enforce the policy required by section 2 of the bill

[The Elan Reporter]

On 2006-03-08 08:19:00, Anonymous wrote:

"

1. As used in this act:



"Information content provider" means any person or entity that is responsible, in whole or in part, for the creation or development of information provided through the Internet or any other interactive computer service.



"Interactive computer service" means any information system, service, or access software provider that provides or enables computer access by multiple users to a computer server, including specifically a service or system that provides service to the Internet.



"Internet" means the international computer network of both federal and non-federal interoperable packet switched data networks.



"Internet service provider" or "provider" means any person, business or organization qualified to do business in this State that provides individuals, corporations, or other entities with the ability to connect to the Internet through equipment that is located in this State.



"Operator" means any person, business or organization qualified to do business in this State that operates an interactive computer service.







2. The operator of any interactive computer service or an Internet service provider shall establish, maintain and enforce a policy to require any information content provider who posts written messages on a public forum website either to be identified by a legal name and address, or to register a legal name and address with the operator of the interactive computer service or the Internet service provider through which the information content provider gains access to the interactive computer service or Internet, as appropriate.







3. An operator of an interactive computer service or an Internet service provider shall establish and maintain reasonable procedures to enable any person to request and obtain disclosure of the legal name and address of an information content provider who posts false or defamatory information about the person on a public forum website.







4. Any person who is damaged by false or defamatory written messages that originate from an information content provider who posts such messages on a public forum website may file suit in Superior Court against an operator or provider that fails to establish, maintain and enforce the policy required pursuant to section 2 of P.C.) (pending before the Legislature as this bill), and may recover compensatory and punitive damages and the cost of the suit, including a reasonable attorney's fee, cost of investigation and litigation from such operator or provider.







5. This act shall take effect on the 90th day following enactment.











STATEMENT







This bill would require an operator of any interactive computer service or an Internet service provider to establish, maintain and enforce a policy requiring an information content provider who posts messages on a public forum website either to be identified by legal name and address or to register a legal name and address with the operator or provider prior to posting messages on a public forum website.



The bill requires an operator of an interactive computer service or an Internet service provider to establish and maintain reasonable procedures to enable any person to request and obtain disclosure of the legal name and address of an information content provider who posts false or defamatory information about the person on a public forum website.



In addition, the bill makes any operator or Internet service provider liable for compensatory and punitive damages as well as costs of a law suit filed by a person damaged by the posting of such messages if the operator or Internet service provider fails to establish, maintain and enforce the policy required by section 2 of the bill"

Arthur give it up already! Don't you know when to quit? You are really acting like a child these past few days, sort of like when a child gets his favorite toy taken away for being a naughty child. Crying will get you nowhere here. You bitch and moan about your pm getting published for all to see, yet you forgot that you posted my pm for all to see. A little taste of your own medicine I see fit.
Sorry, but this is not a place like AA as Ginger so smartly put it. You as of late been throwin temper tantruns here, and don't know when to stop. You're busted, exposed, caught with your pants down, what more do we need to do? Arthur, don't go away mad, just go away.

[Antigen]

On 2006-03-08 08:19:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Interactive computer service" means any information system, service, or access software provider that provides or enables computer access by multiple users to a computer server, including specifically a service or system that provides service to the Internet.

Yes, like, ferinstance Comcast.

Art, take my advice, please! Just click your heels three times and incant "There's no place like AA, there's no place like AA!"

"Now, I'm a walking dead man," ... "And what bothers me is that I'm dead because I tried to help the kids. And it's all the fault of all those people over there at the DEA." [Dead Man Talking]


--Ben Guillory

[Anonymous]

On 2006-03-08 10:29:00, Eudora wrote:

"

On 2006-03-08 08:19:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Interactive computer service" means any information system, service, or access software provider that provides or enables computer access by multiple users to a computer server, including specifically a service or system that provides service to the Internet.

Yes, like, ferinstance Comcast.



Art, take my advice, please! Just click your heels three times and incant "There's no place like AA, there's no place like AA!"

"Now, I'm a walking dead man," ... "And what bothers me is that I'm dead because I tried to help the kids. And it's all the fault of all those people over there at the DEA." [Dead Man Talking]


--Ben Guillory

"

 

[The Elan Reporter]

On 2006-03-08 10:29:00, Eudora wrote:

"

On 2006-03-08 08:19:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Interactive computer service" means any information system, service, or access software provider that provides or enables computer access by multiple users to a computer server, including specifically a service or system that provides service to the Internet.

Yes, like, ferinstance Comcast.



Art, take my advice, please! Just click your heels three times and incant "There's no place like AA, there's no place like AA!"

"Now, I'm a walking dead man," ... "And what bothers me is that I'm dead because I tried to help the kids. And it's all the fault of all those people over there at the DEA." [Dead Man Talking]


--Ben Guillory

"

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :lol:   :lol:  :lol: OMG that is just too funny! Theres no place like AA, LMFAO!