Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Daytop Village
Swan Lake 86-87 by Savage
odie:
--- Quote ---On 2006-02-22 14:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
"So not true there you guys go again no defense so you attack. tsk tsk tsk."
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Some more unethical techniques.
1. Residents being in treatment close to a year without a treatment plan.
2. Primary Counselors seeing their clients for 10 minutes then documenting that they saw them for an hour.
3 Clients meeting with their counselors 3 times in nine months.
4. Staff burning the midnight oil to fudge clinical records to say they were actually seeing clients 1 hour weekly ( this generally happens just before a licensing review )
5. Uneducated and unlicensed staff facilitating sexuality probe groups of residents. Even if they were credentialed alcohol and drug counselors this would be outside the scope of their practice.
I'm just getting warmed up. :wave:
For more than a hundred years much complaint has been made of the unmethodical way in which schools are conducted...with what result? Schools remain exactly as they were.
--Comenius,1632
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animuscitizen:
Daytop advocates need to wake up and smell the java. Some people thank a religion for sobriety. Some thank AA/NA. And some people thank places like Daytop. This is how controlling institutions stay in business. Other posters are correct. If someone achieves sobriety, that person should thank the self. Without individual effort, there is no sobriety.
I worked at Daytop for 2 years, ADU, during the late 90's. Following that experience, I obtained my MSW. During job interviews, despite other job experiences, I ALWAYS get questioned about Daytop. Potential employers often make skeptical comments regarding that part of my employment history. They try to gauge if I am 'one of those types' of counselors. If Daytop is such a pillar of quality treatment, then why do MOST social service agencies and respected professionals regard it is an abusive institution?
If I presented as a typical Daytop counselor / staff, I would not be in my current position as a Director of a Battered Women's Program. I would not have a successful private practice. And I would not be teaching at a local college. Screaming at clients and telling them they are "pieces of shit" is not considered sound clinical treatment. The Daytop methods are not respected within the greater human services community.
Make no mistake about it. Daytop stays in business because of the War on Drugs. The Republicans (like George Pataki) use Daytop as an extention of the prison system. Those folks don't care how drug users / offenders are "treated".
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2006-03-07 11:24:00, animuscitizen wrote:
"Daytop advocates need to wake up and smell the java. Some people thank a religion for sobriety. Some thank AA/NA. And some people thank places like Daytop. This is how controlling institutions stay in business. Other posters are correct. If someone achieves sobriety, that person should thank the self. Without individual effort, there is no sobriety.
I worked at Daytop for 2 years, ADU, during the late 90's. Following that experience, I obtained my MSW. During job interviews, despite other job experiences, I ALWAYS get questioned about Daytop. Potential employers often make skeptical comments regarding that part of my employment history. They try to gauge if I am 'one of those types' of counselors. If Daytop is such a pillar of quality treatment, then why do MOST social service agencies and respected professionals regard it is an abusive institution?
If I presented as a typical Daytop counselor / staff, I would not be in my current position as a Director of a Battered Women's Program. I would not have a successful private practice. And I would not be teaching at a local college. Screaming at clients and telling them they are "pieces of shit" is not considered sound clinical treatment. The Daytop methods are not respected within the greater human services community.
Make no mistake about it. Daytop stays in business because of the War on Drugs. The Republicans (like George Pataki) use Daytop as an extention of the prison system. Those folks don't care how drug users / offenders are "treated"."
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Cheers. Well said. Welcome (although I think you may be the same anon "sister" I was talking to earlier - if so, welcome back).
odie:
Just a tidbit about the political influences that Daytop has always had in its pocket. It's the Democrats and not the Republicans that keep pouring money into this place.
Emotions rule the world; Is it any wonder that it's so mucked up?!
Bill Warbis
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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-03-07 12:13:00, odie wrote:
"Just a tidbit about the political influences that Daytop has always had in its pocket. It's the Democrats and not the Republicans that keep pouring money into this place.
Emotions rule the world; Is it any wonder that it's so mucked up?!
http://www.theempirejournal.com/New_Fol ... _Costs.htm
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