Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Daytop Village
Swan Lake 86-87 by Savage
odie:
We aren't saying not to seek treatment. We are saying that Daytop over the years abused and humiliated people by their techniques. How can we believe that all this has somehow changed when you have the same people running things that were in charge way back when you were there? I'll give some examples of the techniques that were used that you may be familiar with.
1. Having grown men carrying around 6 foot baby rattles and confronted on why they act like a baby because they may have over reacted to someone.
2. Having women working in the garden using only hoes as a symbol that they acted like ho's.
3. Depriving people of sleep by forcing them to stay in marathon groups for 3 days facilitated by staff that were only clean sometimes a few more months then they were.
4. Shaving heads.
5. Having people move rock piles from one end of the facility to the other.
These are only a few of the techniques used by untrained, unqualified staff to "help" people with their substance abuse problems. I personally knew staff that went home at night just trying to think of ways to fuck with peoples minds. Most of these counselors eventually relapsed anyways which always became an embarassment to those who actually cared and were doing the right thing.
Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.
--Mark Twain
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Troll Control:
--- Quote --- So you got some big management job with the degree you earned in Daytop...
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I have serious doubts that this is even true. I mean this guy admits he's still a junkie, just without the needle.
What does that leave? A feeble-minded, weak, projecting, denying, lying loser with an attitude problem.
I bet this guy even has a hard time getting himself dressed in clean clothes and taking care of basic hygiene needs. If he was successful and secure he wouldn't need to come on here and pretend to be better than people who actually DO have their shit together.
Anonymous:
So not true there you guys go again no defense so you attack. tsk tsk tsk.
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2006-02-22 14:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
"So not true there you guys go again no defense so you attack. tsk tsk tsk."
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Defense for what? I have nothing to defend myself for. I've helped hundreds of clients learn to live a better way WITHOUT abusing and humiliating them. What's to be defensive about?
I really do think that you just don't have the cognitive horsepower to understand that. You have a very weak mind that isn't really capable of higher thought and reasoning. It's that simple. You're just too ignorant to know any better or to realize that there is REAL treatment that REALLY works without the abusive bullshit.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-02-22 12:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
Your trying to tell people that getting NO help is better then going into daytop...???
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Yep.
--- Quote ---What kind of logic is that...It better to be just about ANYWHERE then be out there "runnin" (that means still using drugs for all you "counselors" out there).
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You're assuming that anyone that uses drugs is "running". Why would you assume that?
--- Quote ---And now that Ive looked around these boards a little I see its a pro-using sight and thats too bad.
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No, it's a pro-freedom site. There are people here who think drugs should be legalized and people who don't. Both sides of the issue are discussed. Obviously you have a problem with the concept of debating an issue.
--- Quote ---And yes Im very successful with a wife and children with a LARGE house, built in pool fireplace etc so I have done lots since Ive graduated.
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Goody for you, me too. But I've got all that and more all the while being able to enjoy a drink or two or a joint or two. Sorry if you can't handle that.
--- Quote ---Your the ones that are angry
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yes, we get quite angry at the abuse of teenagers.
--- Quote --- im calling it as I see it
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No, you're calling it as you'd like to see it.
--- Quote ---I was there 3 years from entry to graduation, Im not some fly by night splitee posting comments cause they could face their demons and existensial fears.
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Guess the academic part of Daytop wasn't exactly top notch huh?
--- Quote ---It'll be 20 years w/out DOPE and I do mean Dope in June of 06.
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you say that like you're the only one who ever accomplished that. You're not and tons of us do it every day without benefit of a program.
--- Quote ---20 Years you cant argue with that. "
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No, I can't argue with the fact that you've been off dope for 20 years but I can argue what caused this change.
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