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I'm everyone's favorite abuse dummy.  Now you know why I can get so obstreperous!

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"Compassion is the basis of morality."

-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2006-02-21 15:40 ]

Anonymous:
Hi its me the blissful sober one again. The counselors that went through and invested etc...had one thing missing they were never "out there" you cant go to school for that, and thats probably a good thing. I dont think its right that you folks are trying to put down, trash flame whatever you wanna call it something that worked for me and alot alot of other people I know becuase you may be stopping someone somewhere from getting anykind of treatment at all. You talk of statistics and dont bring up the stats of other theraputic methods only Daytop why? Is it because they are on par? Probably. will you me or anyone ever know the true stats of daytops or any others success probably never. Theres some people out there that "split" DVI and stayed staright taking with them some piece of what they learned. Most didnt unfortunately so we'll never know whose method is better more successful etc... And for what its worth I was the KING of being obstreperous,  I didnt live in a bubble at all, I was front and center in your face all day the entire time I was there from entry to graduation there were things and methods I didnt agree with and let it be known what the problem or issue was and worked with the proper people to either resole or agree to diagree and I was never once abused by anyone ever. Tell me what your problems are with Daytop let me try to explain these things to you from a successful non connected point of view. Again I have not been in contact with any one from DVI in over 15 years. Maybe I can help you get over these fears or whatever it is that has you preventing people from getting proper or any treatment. I wonder how many people that needed help read your boards didnt get treatment and died, I wonder were the compassionate humanistic qualities are in that. And by the way its very funny how both your avatars characters are green...perhaps a subconsious tip of the hat to envy?!!? hmmm
Ok lay it on me let me explain to you straight folks how a junkie gets clean for good. Come on kiddies step right up I'll get you a degree free, just like the BS I got in Management while i was in Daytop...free by the way...!

odie:

--- Quote ---On 2006-02-21 16:53:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Hi its me the blissful sober one again. The counselors that went through and invested etc...had one thing missing they were never "out there" you cant go to school for that, and thats probably a good thing. I dont think its right that you folks are trying to put down, trash flame whatever you wanna call it something that worked for me and alot alot of other people I know becuase you may be stopping someone somewhere from getting anykind of treatment at all. You talk of statistics and dont bring up the stats of other theraputic methods only Daytop why? Is it because they are on par? Probably. will you me or anyone ever know the true stats of daytops or any others success probably never. Theres some people out there that "split" DVI and stayed staright taking with them some piece of what they learned. Most didnt unfortunately so we'll never know whose method is better more successful etc... And for what its worth I was the KING of being obstreperous,  I didnt live in a bubble at all, I was front and center in your face all day the entire time I was there from entry to graduation there were things and methods I didnt agree with and let it be known what the problem or issue was and worked with the proper people to either resole or agree to diagree and I was never once abused by anyone ever. Tell me what your problems are with Daytop let me try to explain these things to you from a successful non connected point of view. Again I have not been in contact with any one from DVI in over 15 years. Maybe I can help you get over these fears or whatever it is that has you preventing people from getting proper or any treatment. I wonder how many people that needed help read your boards didnt get treatment and died, I wonder were the compassionate humanistic qualities are in that. And by the way its very funny how both your avatars characters are green...perhaps a subconsious tip of the hat to envy?!!? hmmm

Ok lay it on me let me explain to you straight folks how a junkie gets clean for good. Come on kiddies step right up I'll get you a degree free, just like the BS I got in Management while i was in Daytop...free by the way...!"

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Let me try to break down this dribble very simply because it is unfortunately the mindset of many Daytopians. The fact that many professional staff haven't been "out there" only proves that they know how to lead a prosperous life and can teach others the right way of living. I once asked how do you know how I feel if you haven't been out there and the answer was quite simple. Feelings are universal. Just because a person didn't have the same experiences that I had doesn't mean they can't identify with feelings. It's how we behave as a result of feelings that makes the difference. Who else but someone that can deal with these feelings appropriately is able to teach those that can't or rather choose not to?
As far as the green avitar goes they didn't have one of odie so I chose Shrek because of his personality which happens to be a lot like mine. :wave:
If there is a God, he is a malign thug.
--Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist
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--- Quote ---And by the way its very funny how both your avatars characters are green...perhaps a subconsious tip of the hat to envy?!!? hmmm

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Dude, you are definitely STILL GETTING HIGH.  You got a BS in something alright, Bull Shitting.

Why on earth would anybody be jealous of a halfway literate idiot?  Get a grip, black.

Anonymous:
I'll find you an Odie Avatar. Your never going to be able to explain/justify that so, because you know how to deal with feelings or so you say (now Im not being sarcastic here follow me a second) dosent mean you can "counsel" others on how to do it, especially if youve never experienced the feelings theyve encountered.
on to the next point, what about the people that are disuaded from treatment by seeing these post.
 Now I have seen people die lots of them while in DVI my best friend had an anyurism (sic) in the middle of the night and was gone (RIP Cooter) many died of aids/hiv as it was 1986 and not much was known about the disease back then, however I have never heard of Daytop actually killing anyone. If you prevent someone from getting treatment and they die you might as well be an accesory to murder. And for the record Im not black im usually indigo with crimson stipes and white stars too bad that other guy isnt (not you Odie or DJ.) By the way odie wink once if your name is Brian.

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