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« Reply #105 on: April 14, 2006, 03:13:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-14 12:11:00, Anonymous wrote:

"So you don't think that a kid on the run is an emergency?"


It's a victory, short lived most likely but a victory nontheless.
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« Reply #106 on: April 14, 2006, 03:14:00 PM »
And no, in the grand scheme of emergencies, a runaway is far down on the list.  Ya know...heart attack, major car accident, potential loss of life....that sort of thing would take priority over a runaway IMO.
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« Reply #107 on: April 14, 2006, 04:39:00 PM »
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"So you don't think that a kid on the run is an emergency?"


I believe HLA should stop forcing the county to clean up their mess simply because the school wants to pretend to be something its not.

I believe HLA should take care of its own problems, as it has no problem creating them.

And I believe someone being robbed or dying is more important than a runaway yes.
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« Reply #108 on: April 14, 2006, 05:01:00 PM »
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"So you don't think that a kid on the run is an emergency?"


Only if they're criminals escaped from detention. Call the police and tell them your kid has runaway from home and see how many officers they send out to search for him/her.
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« Reply #109 on: May 02, 2006, 02:07:00 PM »
An HLA employee reported today that funds from HLA (non-profit) were used to enhance the MBA property that is privately owned by Len Buccellato.

If this is the case, it is positively illegal.

Time for an IRS audit perhaps?
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« Reply #110 on: May 02, 2006, 03:09:00 PM »
IRS has not done ANYTHING!
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« Reply #111 on: June 06, 2006, 04:01:00 PM »
What kind of kids would be attending MBA? Were they going to house juvenile delinquents?


Public deserves clear answers about HLA expansion
 
To the editor:

Few residents of the area near the proposed Hidden Lake Academy expansion (Hightower Church, Siloam Church and Oak Grove roads) were able to attend the last commissioners' meeting. Those who did were overwhelmed by emotional and sometimes not too kind public comments about our concerns on the institutions purpose, location and request for tax breaks.

Employees and associates of Hidden Lake were around in such force I was concerned as to who was watching the institution. Since Mr. Essert and Mr. Buccellato have graciously invited questions, I have some.

It seems the residents were the last to know about this proposal. When did you first decide on this project and why was the first officials communication to the local community received after three county meetings? Why would the surveyors not tell anyone what they were surveying for?

It appears that you already have infrastructure and sufficient space at Hidden Lake for additional facilities to accommodate this new population at a greatly reduced cost. If so, then why is it necessary to open a new location? Is there a reason you must separate these students from the others?

I keep hearing words from your folks that relate directly to mental health. Is this a Laurelwood replacement? Would "co-location" cause concern to parents of current students?  
 

Without waiver, the 30-second delay doors you mentioned constitute secure custody ... detention. Even then, this is not a long reaction time. How many security people will be on duty, especially at night? Will your alarm system be connected to the sheriff's department? It appears that you have chosen to place a riskier population than you currently serve in a location with a significantly higher density of Lumpkin County families.

As far as providing jobs for current residents, an analysis of your Web site indicates that 60 percent of your academically-credentialed staff, those who make the best salaries, originally came from out of state. Probably even more came from out of the county. Also, do you plan to construct additional faculty housing so employees do not have to pay property taxes? I suspect you will create jobs ... and then bring in the people to fill them.

Our property taxes support our children's schools. They support roads like the one the county apparently paved for you at Hidden Lake. If you are so interested in giving, then why can you not give your fair share of taxes like everyone else? Are the children of Lumpkin County not important to you?

In closing, there were some facts presented at the last meeting that you took issue with. If those facts were a little off (and I am not convinced of that) it probably is a function of how fast you are trying to push this through without adequate time for people to obtain reliable information. The public deserves some clear answers ... not Madison Avenue ads, spin and pressure tactics.

Sincerely,

Billy Wells,

Colonel, Infantry,

Retired,

Dahlonega
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« Reply #112 on: August 19, 2006, 11:42:13 PM »
More details on why the Commissioners refused to give HLA a tax abatement for MBA. Of particular interest are the calls to 911.

November 9, 2005
Hidden Lake responds to opposition
By Sharon Hall
 
Hidden Lake Academy presented its side of the argument to the Lumpkin County Board of Commissioners over whether tax abatements should be given to a proposed new project at a work session Nov. 1.

The proposed project, Mountain Brook Academy, faced heavy opposition from homeowners in the Hightower Church community, where the new academy would be located, at October's board meeting.

HLA is asking for a five-year tax abatement and five years of graduated taxes at 20 percent over the next five years.

The privately-owned therapeutic boarding school made the request at the October development authority meeting, where members of the authority voted to recommend the abatement to the board of commissioners.

Residents in the neighborhood of the proposed academy, however, not only objected to the tax abatements, but oppose the presence of the facility in the community.

HLA was scheduled to present its case at the board meeting, but asked to be removed from the agenda after viewing a handout concerning information on 911 calls and Lumpkin County Sheriff's Office case numbers purportedly involving HLA students.  

?We were hit with something we weren't prepared for,? said Herman Essert, HLA consultant on the project.

?There's a lot of stir in the community about what Mountain Brook is and isn't,? said Bill Gray, business director of HLA and Ridge Creek, the boarding school's wilderness leadership program, ?a lot of rumors flying around.?

HLA returned to the commission after researching some of the information contained in the handout to ?clear up some of the issues brought up,? Essert said, and to dispel the rumors.

?One rumor is that Hidden Lake is building a prison,? Gray said. ?That's not what we're here for. There will be no barbed wire, no guard towers, and we're not getting ready to sell it to the state for a prison. It looks like a school. The difference is the kids will be staying on the property, with boys' and girls' dorms. We don't work with criminals. We work with kids who have academic problems. Mountain Brook is for kids who are further behind in academics and who have emotional development problems. They will be staying on campus more than Hidden Lake kids because they need to focus more in order to catch up. Mountain Brook is not a lock-down facility, but the difference is we can physically detain students there. They won't be walking down your roads.?

Essert addressed specific information contained in the handout passed out at the Oct. 21 board meeting. One of the incidents reported was a call to LCSO concerning ?shots fired.? That call, Essert said, was made by HLA.

?It was a Lumpkin County resident shooting at the side of our dorm,? he told the commissioners.  :o

Another call mentioned in the handout was of a bomb threat. That call was made by HLA because the school ?received a call from a young man in Tennessee who found out his parents were sending him to Hidden Lake.?

A number of ?unruly juvenile? incidents were listed on the handout. HLA researched the records, and found that from 2002 until present, calls about unruly juveniles from HLA and Ridge Creek (HLA's second school) account for only 2.5 percent of all such calls in Lumpkin County - 7 out of a total of 282 calls.

The handout also stated 38.5 percent of all runaway calls to LCSO were received from HLA, and that each case requires two to 20 man-hours from the sheriff's office.

While the number of runaway calls from HLA is high, Essert said, ?that doesn't paint a true picture. We have an obligation to parents and kids to call Lumpkin County Sheriff's Office when a child leaves campus. Sheriff McClure said that less than half the calls ever get assigned to an officer. Many of the kids get about half way down Wahsega Road - the store - and turn around and walk back.?

The total number of 911 calls between 2002 and present were 85,981. Of those, Essert said, 102 originated from HLA or Ridge Creek.
[2.8 per month]

?That's less than one-half of one percent. I don't think we're that big of an influence on Lumpkin County Sheriff's Office.?

Essert added that in all instances of property damage caused by HLA students restitution was made.

Essert also presented the ?dollars and cents and economics? of HLA's request. In hard money, he said, HLA's economic impact on the county during 2004 was $12.3 million. The major portion of that figure was payroll for HLA's faculty and staff, 70 percent of whom live in the county.

HLA also contributes ?soft money? to the county, which is harder to estimate, Essert said. This contribution is made up of employee and visitor spending.

Parents of HLA students are required to attend meetings quarterly, and while here stay in local motels and eat and shop on the square and in the county, he said.

Mountain Brook Academy plans to hire 80 additional faculty, plus food service staff.

In addition, parents will be required to attend monthly meetings at the school, for an estimated economic impact of $11,000-plus in 2006 alone.

In addition, Essert said, Mountain Brook is an ?environmentally soft industry that compliments the area.

?We are asking for a $71,000 tax incentive, but that's $71,000 the county can only collect if we go ahead and build Mountain Brook in Lumpkin County. We're asking the county to help us to bring an $11,000 economic impact here.?

A number of audience members spoke in favor of tax abatement for the proposed project.

?I was on the development authority in an Ohio town when tax abatements were initiated there,? Fred Fister told the commissioners. ?I got in touch with the city manager there to ask him how they had worked out. He told me they have had 30 projects since tax abatements were started, and they have had a great effect on the economy, especially on the school system.?

Dahlonega Mayor Gary McCullough pointed out that the only real tax abatement would be the amount of taxes currently paid by HLA.

?I was against it until I looked at the numbers,? he said, ?but all you're really giving them is $6,500 a year. I'd love to have industry like that in the city.?

Development authority member Don Trice told the board he voted for the abatement.

?I have experience with public/private partnerships. This is abatement of taxes that won't be here if they don't build the facility.?

?I think this is something we should do for other businesses coming in,? an audience member told the board. ?For every dollar of income the county gets in new taxes, it puts out 35 cents for services for businesses and $1.05 in services for residences. We need more businesses to help balance the tax base.?

?If you think you have to spur growth in Lumpkin County, just take a look down 400. You don't have to give tax incentives to spur growth,? Hightower Church community resident Billy Wells told the commissioners.

?Where do you draw the line?? asked Bernice Ricketts, co-owner of Moore's Hardware. ?We are a struggling business, and we could use a tax break. If you do it for this business, I'm going to come see what I can do, and I think a lot of others will too.?

Several people also spoke favorably of their experiences with HLA students.

One lady who works with the youngsters at her church said, ?They are the best troubled kids I've ever worked with. They are setting goals for themselves, they want to heal their relationships with their families. I'm in support of more facilities like Hidden Lake.?

One HLA employee told commissioners that 100 percent of HLA students are accepted to college, and the youngsters have donated many hours in community service.

?How can one call these people criminal? Facilities like this are sorely need in this country. Hidden Lake Academy deserves every consideration.?

Steve Churchwell of St. Luke's Catholic Church said he visits HLA monthly.

?One of the high points of my living here is my association with these kids.?

A member of HLA faculty said she had taught ?unruly kids in Fulton County, and I was an unruly kid. I would take any Hidden Lake Academy student home with me or to my parent's home without a second thought. These kids do have problems, but they are not kids who are going to attack you.?

?I think fear makes cowards of us all,? District 1 Commissioner ?Dr. John? Raber told the crowd. ?I think we all have fear of someone new coming to town, but that's not the case here. My wife is a high school counselor, and I asked her about what kind of kids are at Hidden Lake. She said, ?What do you mean? You raised two of them.'

?When you have 60 percent of your ad valorem taxes coming from residential and 40 percent from commercial enterprises, you're bleeding.

?When it's 90 percent from residential, you're hemorrhaging.

?Folks, we're hemorrhaging here in Lumpkin County.?

?I have the fear of a sucking sound going down the road to the new Wal-Mart in Dawson County,? one man replied. ?Wal-Mart is the largest taxpayer in Lumpkin County. We have to do everything we can to keep businesses like Mountain Brook here.?

The commission will vote on the tax abatement issue at the monthly board of commissioners meeting Nov. 17, 6 p.m. at City Hall.
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« Reply #113 on: August 20, 2006, 12:30:40 AM »
Wells' response was posted in another thread:
http://wwf.avigation.net/viewtopic.php? ... lls#192918

Excerpt:
What's Hidden other than the Lake?
Who dreamed up this larceny?
If I could afford one of those $600 ads it would go something like this. A year at Harvard University ... $41,675. Four years at the University of Georgia ... $41,112. A year at Hidden Lake Academy ... $64,800. Perspective on a $71,000 tax break for Hidden Lake ... priceless.
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What Essert neglected to say....
« Reply #114 on: August 20, 2006, 01:45:52 AM »
One young girl didn't make it down the road to the store..twice...

According to reports and her family she was picked up on two different occasions..and raped....dumped in the park, shot up with drugs...Did the police find her, did anyone follow her down the road?  no, her parents found her unconscious in the park on one of those occasions....
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« Reply #115 on: August 20, 2006, 09:05:54 AM »
When did this supposedly happen? this incident

SHH
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« Reply #116 on: August 20, 2006, 01:07:57 PM »
Please remember people if Susie the Bullfrog did not see an event occur....

IT DID NOT HAPPEN!!!!!
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« Reply #117 on: January 17, 2007, 11:08:10 AM »
Well, we already know MBA is a dead project.  We also know that kids were used to improve the MBA property for the 'equestrian program.'

What we didn't know was that Len has been furiously trying to sell the MBA property (it's listed in MLS).  Reportedly a potential sale fell through due to the existing legal entanglements.

Here's my question:  What happens to the riding program when the property is sold?

Also, were they going to tell parents they were selling off this property?  Discontinuing the riding program?

Has anyone recently followed up with the state regarding using the kids' labor for material improvement to the property???
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« Reply #118 on: January 17, 2007, 11:20:11 AM »
No no no Dysfunction, the kids volunteered. Those guns were there to protect the kids against wild deers and the balls and chains around the kids ankles were there again voluntarily.
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« Reply #119 on: January 17, 2007, 11:41:51 AM »
Are any of these names connected to HLA?  I was looking for some connection between Wozny and HLA.  This is the ladies club of Dahlonega...

President - Sue Neil

1st Vice President - Carol Hesse

2nd Vice President - Sandy Lundberg

Secretary - Pat Wozny

Treasurer - Debbie Harris

DEPARTMENT CHAIRMEN:

ARTS - Marilou Kinney

CONSERVATION - Betty Jo Tucker

EDUCATION - Karen Smith

HOME LIFE - Ronda Davis

INTERNATIONAL - Molly Callender

PUBLIC AFFAIRS - Ronda Davis
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