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join our protest on Feb 25 - Florida Holocaust Museum

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Stripe:
I read the articles and links on regarding this Museum fiasco on The Straights.com.  

As you guys probably know, The Florida Holoc. Museum is headed by the former founders and former members of the board of directors of Staight, Inc.  These "awards" by the Museum are the "atta boy" awards they give each other in recognition of their good works with the Holo. Museum.

While I agree that the Seed and Straight were by no means concentration camps, Mel and Betty have taken their illgotten Straight Inc. gains and put at least a portion of those funds into another charitable organization, and it is a legitimate good organization.  But even still, putting the illgotten gains into a good cause does not excuse them.  Blood money is blood money.  

I can seek duplicitousness of the Semblers' and other Straight Inc board members current involvement with the Museum - it's plain as day. And I think that duplicity should be made clear to public and more importantly to the members and supporters ofthe Holo. Museum.  But that would be better accomplished by sending each supporter and member a personal letter explaining where the "seed" money came from, why it's tainted and why these people are harmful to the rememberance of holo. victims.  

Doing something like that would cause a much larger reaction that the Semblers and their former cronies would have to address. They could not blow that off as a bunch of angry, bitter crack pots with an agenda.

But like Greg and Marc, I think the the public won't be able to make that conection without a whole lot of supplemental information - certainly more information than could be put on a protest sign.  Hence, when the protesters make their appearance on 2/25 the Semblers win and the protestors are - once again - made out to be the bitter angry crack pots Betty loves to insult and dismiss.  

But she and Mel would be hard- pressed to dismiss the facts and numbers of thier own actions.  

Just a thought for a different approach...

GregFL:
Stripe, you (and Marc) and me seem to be eye to eye on this subject.

I think that these people who ran straight, denying abuse all the way even as they were settling lawsuits for abuse...to then go sit on a board like the holocaust museum which attempts to honor those victims of abuse is way beyond hippocracy.


However Former clients of Straight declaring themselves victims of a holocaust on equal grounds of the german holocaust cuts the heart out of any argument they may have.  Holding signs up that say "the straight holocaust" to observers and passerbys of the holocaust museum paints them right into a corner of lack of credibility.

 Straight, The Seed, Even the worst of the breed, Kids helping Kids, were not even close to a "holocaust" as the term is used in popular society.  To claim so  is akin to someone with a missing pinkies holding up a sign   that says "I lost my arms".   Then how you holding the sign up, Skippy?

 You create a situation where people not only don't believe you, they dismiss you as a nut or on the fringe.

The thing is, I know a lot of these people and understand their intention is good.  Unfortunately, there is a right and wrong way to protest injustice.  This, in my opinion, is  counterproductive.

If they would remove the "straight holocaust" references and create a peacefull protest with factual claims, I would support them 100%

Anonymous:
Protests don't work..They are just annoying for people that actually DON'T have the time protest and have real jobs..

GregFL:
I don't think I agree with that.  Protests can be effective ways of

notifying the 'neighbors' of the offenders of the nature of your complaint.

embarrassing the focus of your attention.


However, extreme care must be taken in order to raise yourself way above the fray, lest you become the focus of attention instead of your intended target.

This is the problem we are discussing here.

marcwordsmith:
Well, I didn't know about the Sembler connection so my last post was written in ignorance. The sentiment still stands, but now at least I get the idea of what the protesters would be trying to do.

I think Stripe's idea is excellent and would be effective, but how would we get the names and addresses of all the museum patrons and supporters? And who would pay for the mailing? Sounds like a lot of work. Are we that organized yet?

But what about a press release of some sort? Or a collectively signed letter to the editor, stating that, while we deeply respect the Holocaust Museum and the necessity not to forget the unthinkable atrocities and monumental tragedy of of the Holocaust, we find it ironic that two of the museum Board members are directly responsible for an entirely different massive atrocity, though not comparable in scale to the Holocaust (because what could be?), but an atrocious legacy nonetheless. We, survivors of Straight, Inc. etc. . . . hold Mel and Betty Sembler accountable for monstrous systematic abuse of young teens . . . perpetrated over a period of ___ years . . . etc. (And summarize the abuses perhaps.)

What do you think? Ginger, are you around? Seems like someone who is a Straight survivor should source this effort, were it to happen.

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