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join our protest on Feb 25 - Florida Holocaust Museum

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Anonymous:
I am sorry I offended you earlier by saying the Jewish holocaust was not the only holocaust in history.

I am not anti-Semitic, I was trying to make a point to the other poster that the terrible things the Nazi?s did were not limited acts to that time period WWII.

History has shown us humans are the most destructive force on this planet and have committed many other large scale heinous acts.

By the way, Richard Bradbury has never protested at any of the protests at the Holocaust Awards Banquets.

I know because I have protested each year these past two year and plan to protest this year as well.

However, we are considering some changes in our central theme.

GregFL:
Well, If I could be so bold as to make a couple of suggestions, I would offer this.

1)  Dress nice..in fact, wear business suits.

2)  no yelling or cursing

3)  Limit the signs to the topic at hand...IE:  Sembler & Co, their past and their current involvement with the board.  Slogans like

Sembler...remove him

Board of Directors
Straight, Inc.
Mel Sembler
et al

Board of Directors
Holocaust Museam
Mel Sembler
et al

Holcaust Museam  Honors the victims of abuse
 
Straight Inc.     Charged with and settled cases of abuse

Betty Sembler to victims of abuse
"get over it"


Remove the hippocrites from the holocaust board.


Etc, etc.

ALWAYS understating your case.


That would just be my suggestion, and once again...Good luck with the protest!!!!

Antigen:
Finally! Something to argue with you
about!  :em:  


--- Quote ---On 2006-01-30 09:04:00, GregFL wrote:

You may believe this with all your heart, but your credibility is on the line, and I see a problem with trying to convince the general public you were in a "holocaust".

You haven't convinced me, and I have spent years researching what happened and was in The Seed.

--- End quote ---


I have too, as you know. But have you studied the German Holocaust? I mean, do you know more of the story than just the parts about the angry little man w/ the funny moustache, Anne Frank, the gas chambers and work camps and that you should be appauled by the whole thing; hold it sacrosanct and never dare discuss it except in reverent tones?

Do you have a good understanding of what drove that insanity, how it came about, what it looked like on the ground as it overtook the German national character and hearts and minds of the German people (and not a few Italians and American financiers, industrialists and politicritters into the mix)?

One of the most important things to understand about that catastrophe of politics and war is that the European Jews were not really the problem that the people behind the Fürher were trying to solve. I'm convinced that Hitler believed that and most of his followers. But then, they believed it for centuries before the Socialist Workers Party ever began to pick up steam.

That's why the party bosses cottoned so well to the 'cause'; because the people were already eager to lap it up, to compromise their own ethics, to carry out acts offensive to their own sense of reason, their religions and just basic human decency.

And there are stark similarities. Not ONLY is the very same powerful Dynasty still in the game (look into Bush Harriman Walker, Union Banking, here's somat: http://www.rense.com/general42/bshnazi.htm ) but the only switch up in strategy that I can see is that they've changed their scapegoat to one more believable to Americans. The scapegoated class is now our own children, those of them who don't want to be just like us, and people who dare to deem themselves capable and qualified to make their own choices wrt drug use w/o permission from a reich approved practicioner.  

If you don't understand how a Holocaust comes about, it'll happen again. If you dare not mention these similarities, these mistakes, these outright frauds, that's the best way to ensure that it does happen again, and asap!


I swear by my life and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.
* - ~ Galt's Creed ~ - *
--- End quote ---

Antigen:
One more nifty quip for your bumper, protest sign or attractive coffee mug or t-shirt.



TOUGH LOVE

is a

HATE GROUP!


Religion is based . . . mainly on fear . . . fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand. . . . My own view on religion is that of Lucretius. I regard it as a disease born of fear and as a source of untold misery to the human race.
--Bertrand Russell, British philosopher, educator, mathemetician, and social critic
--- End quote ---


_________________
fka ~ Antigen
Drug war POW  
Straight, Sarasota
`80 - `82
Why I Live at the PO



[ This Message was edited by: Eudora on 2006-01-30 15:07 ]

Anonymous:
wow - I am the anon poster of this topic.  I have been working lots and have not had an opportunity to check back...in fact, I even forgot I posted this till I was reminded.   I really appreciate all the thoughts and comments; they definately are food for thought.  

Greg - thanks for the thoughts on the signs.  I agree and I for one think that any signs comparing the striaghts to the holocaust should be discouraged.   Also, your comments on other more appropriate signage is well taken.

Although, I am by heritage jewish, my family became catholic long long ago, so I don't have the same understanding as a practicing jew on feelings of the holocaust.  To me it is the most horrible thing that happened in the 20th century, possible for the entire history of the world.  With that said, let me explain a bit how we got to this point.

About 4 years ago, a few friends of mine approached the ex director and staff of the holocaust museum and brought information to them regarding the crimes against children that certain members of the board and board of trustees were involved in.  At that time, a request was made to remove the persons involved from the board or board of trustees; the request was ignored.  The request was made numerous times, formally in writing and informally by phone calls.  

When the executive director had a sudden heart attack and died, the former president of straight foundation was appointed interim director, Bruce Epstein, a further slap in the face.  His involvement was well known too, as that information was provided.  Epstein is also a board of trustees member.

The protest will again take place, I will do my best to modify our approach somewhat.  I believe that it is hypocritical and does not honor the vicitims of the holocaust and the jewish people to have these folks on the Board.  I stand by that and will do all I can to have them removed.

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