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GregFL:
Me too Jalong.  I was so ready to go home and so emotionally spent from being seperated from my famiy, and also from being convinced it was all my fault.

I think Julie that you are probably correct...that Suzie was really there for you as much as she could be in that context.

There were undoubtedly good people and good things that happened.  To deny that would be just as big an error as to claim that nothing negative ever happened.  Nothing is black and white.

cleveland:
JaLong, Marshall, Marc:

I so much appreciate reading your postings. I think all of you are able to keep in mind the fact that the Seed was essentially a bunch of kids (and a couple of adults) packed into an emotional pressure cooker - and some reacted better than others. I had a great oldcomer. He was a funny, intellegent, hard-working kid from a large Irish Catholic family from Cleveland's West side working class neighborhood. He could sing beautifully, he told hysterical stories, and he worked his ass off as a construction worker. He was also a real hard ass about Seed doctrine, which made my home life, moral inventories, etc. a real hell. I understand he has become a massage therapist, which kind of freaks me out - he was super macho.

I always heard about Susie Connors. People would reminisce about her beauty, gentleness, kindness - or sometimes would talk about what a hard ass she was. I understand that she was adopted by Art and later died of cancer. That seems so sad to me, even though I never met her.

I also think of Evie, who was a staff member. She was so sweet natured, so pretty, and so kind. But she could also be really Seed-tough too. When I started working at a hospital she was really intrizued, she ended up becoming a nurse and drifted away from the Seed. Maybe that was her big break to be her own person.

wtaylorg:
Hey cleveland:
Unless I'm wrong Suzie Connors didn't die, Suzie Barker did. You remember Suzie Connors? A smallish redhead with sharp features. She left about a yr or so before me and I left in '85. She worked at the credit card place as an exec. I remember seeing her in the weekend raps when I first moved down there in '82 and I saw her regularly there for at least 2 yrs.

After I hadn't seen her around in a while I find it ironic that one day she was on my list to call about the Safecard insurance and she answered the phone and I thought I recognized that voice, and I looked down and saw her name.
At that point I said I had to go, she might have told me she already had the protection. :eek:)
I never knew Suzie Barker. Wasn't she Art's niece? maybe TK could shed some light on that.
I have read a few postings about staying at the "house" recently My recollection is how everyone got to stay at the "house" except me. I wasn't asked to "watch the house" until shortly before I left. Funny how I was never trusted the whole time I was there to do something as simple as that. But hey I stayed. right?

GregFL:
I sure wish Suzie Connors would show up here...


Cleveland, you did have the two confused.  Suzie Connors was never adopted by Art, that was Libby, and Suzie Barker was some relative of Arts, like his neice or something.

marshall:
Now I'm confused too. I distinctly remember Suzie Connors but I don't recall her having red hair. I do remember a staff member named Darlene that had bright red hair though. I never knew Suzie Barker at all. I had a nice oldcomer too. We remained close friends for years after we both graduated the program.

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