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Teen?s death prompts calls to shut boot camp

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Anonymous:
you people are fucking nuts and need serious help. Nazi dictatorship? you have to be shittin me. Your so obsessed that the man is keeping you down you miss the point. Yeah some boot camps do some bad crap and need to be looked at but shut them down? what kind of dumb ass knee jerk reaction is that? Oh so a car hit and killed someone take em all off the road? no regulate them. think before you engage your damn fingers

Antigen:
Obviously you never spent any time in the "care" of any of DFAF's other programs. Knee jerk? Fuck off!

I cannot believe in the immortality of the soul.... No, all this talk of an existence for us, as individuals, beyond the grave is wrong. It is born of our tenacity of life -- our desire to go on living -- our dread of coming to an end.
--Thomas Edison, American inventor
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mandelduke:
No child should be abused or neglected for the sake of profit. Teens and pre-teens have testified to being abducted, incarcerated, abused, and neglected in for-profit private residential facilities, boot camps, wilderness programs, and boarding schools, as well as state-funded juvenile justice facilities ... an industry that is largely unregulated. As a parent and survivor of one of these torture camps, I am shocked that this is still going on in America. We go to war to liberate the Iraqi people from the atrocities committed by Saddam Hussein. We judge third world countries for sweat shops. Who will liberate our children from abusive treatment centers? We have thousands of our children in these torture camps. This is not a new problem! I was abused at Green River Boys Camp in 1974, which means that it?s been going on for at least thirty-two years! We can find one hundred and sixteen stories of children that have died, committed suicide, or been murdered in these camps  at http://www.caica.org/NEWS%20Deaths%20Li ... mitted.htm   I know of two more victims from camps in Kentucky. As a survivor of thirty two years I can tell you of the long term devastation effects of having lived in one of these camps. So can sociologists like Dr. Ann Marie Charvat, who testified in the capital murder case of Anthony Darrell Hines. I have learned of several people on death row and in prison for murder that were former residents of Green River Boys Camp. I believe if we actually knew how many people have committed suicide and violent crimes, after having been abused in torture camps, we would all be shocked. Parents are told that these camps will change their children, and this I can vouch from experience. But if they knew what they change them into, they wouldn?t approve.

For more info contact http://www.parentadvocates.org
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mandelduke@yahoo.com

Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2006-04-03 04:14:00, mandelduke wrote:

Parents are told that these camps will change their children, and this I can vouch from experience. But if they knew what they change them into, they wouldn?t approve.

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That's the part that concerns me most. Maybe I developed a healthy aversion to the concept based on my own experience. But isn't that a chilling phrase? "Don't worry, Mrs. Jones, we'll change your child for you in no time!" Fuck! If anyone said anything like that to me, I'd grab hold of my kids and run the other way!

I know what this routine did to my family. While you were locked up in the public sector thought reform experiment, my parents actually paid Art Barker to reprogram 4/5 of my elder brothers and sisters. By `80, it was my turn and I got the "new and improved" regimin at Straight, Inc.

There is no more family. 6 kids raising or having raised 8 grandkids; no two families in the same state. The only terms by which I can have any part of their occasional get togethers is if I play along w/ their view of me and my one brother as total fuckups. He and I never completed our programs; therefore we were cut off from all manner of familial supprt. They were trying to help us, you see, to reach our "rock bottoms" on our own w/o any toxic "enabling". Sympathy kills, remember?

So now we're all coasting into or in the midst of middle age. I wouldn't even know if my mother has already died or if any of my nieces or nephews have kids of their own, cept for one I know of and we don't really communicate either.

If it had just been my crazy assed family having joined a crazy assed cult, I wouldn't be speaking of it publicly today. It just wouldn't be relavent or interesting, except as a tragic human interest story, to the vast majority of readers.

But if you put together the private sector thought reform gulags w/ the public sector programs like Green River then do the math, this ammounts to a total scorched earth maneuver on family and community throughout the land.

THAT is what keeps me up at night!

Not a place upon earth might be so happy as America. Her situation is remote from all the wrangling world, and she has nothing to do but to trade with them.
--Thomas Paine
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stud3nt03:
For my grade 11 english class we are writing pro/con essays and i have chosen the topic of boot camps. Now im not exactly sure if i should either write it on PRO or CON for boot camps, so if there is anyone out there who feels strongly about the topic, could they please leave some quality resources for me about either PRO or CON for boot camps. Thank you, your resources will be greatly appreciated.

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