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Teen?s death prompts calls to shut boot camp

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Deborah:

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"Did everybody else notice the term the officers used for the beating: "restraint". Remember this, when reading through this forum what a restraint can actully entail. This is a telling story, about the entire boot camp industry. It is brutal and unnecessary."

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Absolutely, right on.
Not just the 'boot camp' industry. Most probably don't go to this extreme, but this could happen in a wilderness program or other residential BM program that allows restrain/abuse. Frequently it's broken/sprain arms, bones twisted out of the joint, dislocated jaws, faces rubbed in the mud/gravel, etc. Just takes the right situation with the right sadist.
It's a miracle there are not more deaths. And we have NO clue how many injuries there have been in programs.

Anonymous:
I'm an ex recruit from the Polk County Juvenile Boot Camp and I strongly disagree with what Rep. Gustavo Barreiro said about shutting down the boot camps and how they aren't working. :flame:
Before I entered the boot camp, I was a lost cause. It was my fourth program, no one else wanted to put up with me. I was an angry teenager, I had no respect for authority. When I got there I knew I wasn't in control anymore. I hated the Drill Instructors yelling at me, but it was the only thing that got through to me. The boot camps are all about tough love. I stayed at the boot camp nine months and graduated successfully. I went in there hating a lot of Drill Instructors and I left loving them. I'm not a perfect person, but I think if it wasn't for the boot camp I would of ended up in prison.
It's tragic what happend to that 14 year old boy, but I don't think that all the other boot camps should be closed down. Behind the hard fronts, the Drill Instructors put on, they are really caring people with big hearts.  :grin:

Antigen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religion. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough.
--Aldous Huxley, author
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Anonymous:
I am still so disturbed by the images I saw on that tape.  I did more research on this yesterday and found dozens of stories of kids killed in these gulags.   Isn't there something that could help this situation?  

There's a petition for a law for better regulation of these places that also includes federal funding.  here's a link to that site...
   http://www.PetitionOnline.com/hr1738/

I hope that all camps are not all as dangerous as the ones I've been reading about.  But even one death (oh, sorry, they call them 'incidents') in these places is too many.

As to the person who wrote in defense of the camp - glad to hear you had good outcomes.  But that doesn't justify the egregious assault and/or neglect that many young people suffer at these places.

Antigen:
Well, here's an example of what we're up against.

http://www.cincinnatibeacon.com/index.p ... spiracies/

Deeply engrained religious indoctrination.

Even when we put together all of the solid documentation showing these sadistic lunatics for who and what they are, people simply refuse to see it.
We ought to be grateful that our government monopoly schools are such a failure. If today's 18 year olds could do arithmetic, they'd be out buying enough rope to hang everybody over 40.
--Alan Handleman on Social Security

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