i can relate to you mixed feelings...i was in st.pete from april 81 to when ever we went to v.a.!i wouldn't be surprised to know you or you remembering me!my start over on 5th phase by jim sailor and shawna arnow was legendary....according to "miller"i was the first one!i don't know if thats true but it really f-ed me up!i had to "do" everything over.....i had already been there a really long time!Mark Newton,to his benifit,told me when i was sent up to make sure the homes in V.A. were "secure",that i shouldv'e NEVER been started over....{he lived at my house the week we were up there "securing"}It came out of his mouth the first night we were up in Va....he wanted to listen to some music...i said all i had was what i got started over for....he rolled his eyes and looked at me...then he said "you shouldv'e never been started over"...i was shocked and mad etc....i knew that already,but hearing it from"miller newton's son" was unbelievable!then he went on to tell me that shawna hastilly,without checking to see if i had permission to chew tobacco,put me on a 4th phase refresher.....the next day jim sailor started me over...the day after that,in a staff meeting,Mark said he complained about my start over,stating a well documented fact at the time,if i was F.O.S.,then why didn't i leave when i was in V.A on my 5th phase vacation?...he said the 2 staff members looked stupidly at him....he also told them that he checked to see if i really did have permission to chew and found out that i did!Pierce Koon was the staff member that gave me the permission to! he said that the damage had been done already...sooooo i had to "do"the "program"over again!I was in there for a then va record of 28 1/2 months!a great deal of the grief i experienced in straight was for nothing!!!!! as far as running into staff members after straight,i did once...this a-holes name was joey glaze...if i hadn't been on "work release" from jail,i probably wouldv'e had a real honest "chat" with him,but as luck would have it.....well,you get the picture....hippie564