Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
Another WWASP death
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-11 06:21:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-01-10 16:56:00, Exit Plan wrote:
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I was scared to death to even post anything because I've seen how people that don't agree with the majority on here are slammed and have their words twisted. I guess I won't put myself through it again. I'm sorry I even tried to explain what I felt.
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You are hardly getting slammed. Getting slammed is going to a WWASP seminar facilitated by Gilcrease and being verbally humiliated and torn down emotionally in front of a hundred strangers.
If you refuse in a seminar, you get sent to the hobbit.
At least here you can simply turn off your computer.
Totalitarianism is like a specter which drinks the blood of the living and so achieves reality, while the victims go on existing as a mass of living corpses.
Karl Jaspers, The Fight Against Totalitarianism (1963)
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No, both are examples of getting slammed. You have experience in one and she has an experience in another. They are both very real to the person getting slammed, try not to minimalize a persons experience and how it affected them."
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I'm sorry, but you are incorrect. Nobody made any comments slamming this woman. She is unable or unwilling to accept valid criticism about SCL and their quality of staff. She views those valid criticisms (which, by the way were clarified by the posters saying that they did not doubt the she and her husband ARE good people) as personal attacks against her and her husband.
Your statement simply isn't valid. Did yo read the posts or are you just saying that because she FEELS attacked she WAS attacked. If so, that just doesn't float.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---No, both are examples of getting slammed. You have experience in one and she has an experience in another. They are both very real to the person getting slammed, try not to minimalize a persons experience and how it affected them.
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Ah- except for the tiny detail people come here willingly and can come willingly, and I don't have the power to lock you up in isolation in disgusting conditions if you don't agree with me. How would fornits be if kids had THAT power over you - imagine that- you you might get a small glimpse of what it's like being locked up at WWASP, obviously you have no idea judging by your comment above.
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-10 11:33:00, Anonymous wrote:
As for the MANDT training at SCL, I know for a fact that it happens since my husband will spend his weekend off getting his recertification.
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Yup, they did things like that at Straight, too. Oh, they'd hire someone w/ a title; occasionally someone who was almost reasonably qualified, at least on paper. They'd send their peer staff to St. Pete Jr. College to get mandated pieces of paper. But the training goes out the window before the ink is dry on the certificate. When you've got special awareness and a higher calling, you can justify ANY damned thing! Anything!
The way I learned it in school (real school) the end can never justify the means because only God can be sure how anything will end.
I tend to disagree w/ my early teachers on some specific points of fact (i.e. I haven't had an imaginary friend since I was about 8. His name was Charlie) But they were very clear headed on other things.
Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.
--Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865)
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Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-10 14:36:00, Exit Plan wrote:
Even if your husband has a good heart, the policy is equally frightening, because how can one test if someone has a good heart?
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Well, there's the nut of it. Only a skilled facilitator or trainer can spot a good or bad heard. They're the only ones who have the awareness, the active, lively, all knowing, omnicient inner child. Sure, some lower level people might be right about it some of the time. But only someone who really, really "gets" the program can make such a determination.
That's the test. They only get the credentials to humor us poor, unenlightened outlanders who just don't or can't "get it".
Peace and abstinence from European interferences are our objects, and so will continue while the present order of things in America remain uninterrupted.
--Thomas Jefferson
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Anonymous:
Going to a one day training this Saturday and being a nice guy doesn't qualify someone to work in a program. Or at least it shouldn't, but WWASP sees it otherwise.
Should a nice guy with a CPR certification be allowed to do open heart surgery?
I don't doubt your husband might be a nice guy, but let's clarify the term "qualified". It doesn't mean having a CPR card and attending a one day training on takedowns. I think the counselors should have Bachelor's degrees in Psychology, Behavioral Science, or Social Work which would indicate that they've had YEARS of studying the origins of behavior, successful interventions, drug addictions, sexual abuse survivors, dignified behavioral interventions, and much more.
The only WWASP qualification I seem to notice is the need to have a family connection to another staff member.
Parents with college degrees and years of parenting experience show they're giving up in a sense by sending their kids away. They probably don't realize that their kids will be raised by people with VERY LITTLE training who are scarcely older than the kids themselves.
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