Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
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Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2005-12-31 23:29:00, RobertBruce wrote:
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On 2005-12-31 23:16:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Also these pointless fights you mentioned. Take a closer look. They end with us posing questions to the pro HLA people, questions they cannot answer, because to do so would expose the truth.>>>>
RB dear,
ironically, this poster would be the one who claimed to be an ex-counselor and answered a long list of questions you posed.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 240#158140
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That would appear to be ABC123. I doubt its the same person. ABC at least attempts to be honest about issues at HLA, even though he still glazes over a number of issues and sugar coats others.
I dont think its the same guy. "
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ABC123 is the same person as Kathleen. Right down to how they misspell "site" repeatedly as "sight." Pretty lame, Kathleen. Now we have Kathleen, ABC123, Aften, Realworld, SHH and also their "anonymous" posts.
Funny how the pro-HLA people accuse others of being a small group of angry posters, but when the facts are examined, there really are only three HLA supporters, two of whom maquerade as sobriquet identities and all of whom post anonymously on several occasions.
LIE and MANIPULATE. That's the HLA way! If you can't win on a level playing field, do whatever it takes to get a perceptual "win." PATHETIC. Especially for you, Kathleen. Every day you reveal more of your true self through your sorry dialogue. Maybe it's time for an all night "confession session" so you can get back into agreement.
Seriously, though, if this is the best "professional" that HLA can offer up to argue its side of the case, it only goes to show that the staff there are from the shallow end of the gene pool.
Parents, this should be a big ol' RED FLAG for you. Not only are you getting piss-poor pseudo-therapeutic hacks to warehouse your children, you're paying more than "top-dollar" for it.
Anonymous:
Why has HLA never sponsored a longitudinal study to assess the effectiveness of their program? >>>
not interested in a study conducted by hla. must be an independent study if you want any objective data.
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-01 10:35:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Why has HLA never sponsored a longitudinal study to assess the effectiveness of their program? >>>
not interested in a study conducted by hla. must be an independent study if you want any objective data.
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"Sponsored" means "paid for." I agree any study commissioned by HLA would have to be done by an irreproachable entity with no situational bias. That's what a valid study is.
If I were in HLA's position and I genuinely felt that our product was a good one, I'd pay for a research entity to perform the study so that I could use its positive results as marketing material.
Now, let me suggest why this hasn't been done: HLA knows that they have a bad product.
They simply don't want to expose themselves to scientific scrutiny because they know full well that their "success rate" is below 50% which indicates that pure chance would have the same outcome.
HLA-like RTC's have been shown to have roughly a 75% recidivism rate, meaning that only 25% of participants do well after the program. I would suggest this number is well below the success rate of groups that have gone "untreated." It is the same recidivism rate as penal institutions.
So, if you want to go strictly by SUCCESS RATE, HLA is less effective than non-intervention and equally as effective as sending your kid to prison.
The numbers speak for themselves. Can you imagine an EDCON selling HLA on a 25% success rate? "Yes, it's only $7,000 per month, could last as long as four years or more and is equally effective as prison in deterring future bad behavior."
Nobody would buy it. As it is now, only a very, very small number of parents go for deals like HLA.
Troll Control:
Hel-loooo...........?
People are waiting to hear what you have to say. Why do you post dozens of times about junk, but won;t talk about real topics?
Maybe HLA has a lot to lose by talking about facts. Just a thought.
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