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Anyone grateful for the time at Spring Creek Lodge?

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Anonymous:
Sorry to hear that you were unable to get through to his parents.  Keep him in your prayers, and hope that he is able to leave when he turns 18.

Anonymous:
It appears he is doing as good as expected. He has not lost any points and is now the bunk leader or whatever they call it. He has almost 1000 points. They said he is very intelligent and has not been a problem at all. He is a respectful kid so I pray he will not have any problems.

Anonymous:
Sounds like he is doing what he needs to do.  How does the point system work, do you need so many in order to graduate, get special privileges?  Have you been able to communicate with him at all?

Nihilanthic:

--- Quote ---i didnt read all of your message because it appears there was a miscommunication.  i didnt get beat, i know others who did.  there is nothing you can argue with me about as it is my statement about how i felt.
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You're what the layperson would call "brainwashed" bub. Thats like saying you disagree with Al Quaida, but still liked having tea and crumpets with Bin Laden.


--- Quote ---im not saying anything about the moral code followed at SCL.  all i am stating is i enjoyed myself and was happy.  as far as the bonding and stuff goes...to make it a little more clear: i think if people go through hard shit together, they become close.  this doesnt mean abuse per say, simply tougher rules.  I could be wrong, it's just my opinion.  But I'm glad i could clear up your misunderstanding -MO"
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Thats a nonsense opinion! You dont have to traumatize or otherwise make people suffer and commiserate to bring together friendship or just regular bonding. There are ways to do it without undue suffering and the emotional (or physical) scarring that goes with it.

"First, do no harm". Theres no need to do it with this suffering unless you just buy into such a mentality. Does this mean parents should beat all of their children and let them try to console eachother to build togetherness?

Youre obviously a traumatized, influenced individual, or a troll. In the former case Id seriously suggest you get therapy and stop believing the shit put in your head by the seminars.

In the latter case, well, go hide under that bridge you came out from under.

In either case, I pray to god you're not a parent.[ This Message was edited by: Nihilanthic on 2006-01-04 13:02 ]

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2006-01-04 13:00:00, Nihilanthic wrote:

"
--- Quote ---i didnt read all of your message because it appears there was a miscommunication.  i didnt get beat, i know others who did.  there is nothing you can argue with me about as it is my statement about how i felt.
--- End quote ---




You're what the layperson would call "brainwashed" bub. Thats like saying you disagree with Al Quaida, but still liked having tea and crumpets with Bin Laden.




--- Quote ---im not saying anything about the moral code followed at SCL.  all i am stating is i enjoyed myself and was happy.  as far as the bonding and stuff goes...to make it a little more clear: i think if people go through hard shit together, they become close.  this doesnt mean abuse per say, simply tougher rules.  I could be wrong, it's just my opinion.  But I'm glad i could clear up your misunderstanding -MO"
--- End quote ---



Thats a nonsense opinion! You dont have to traumatize or otherwise make people suffer and commiserate to bring together friendship or just regular bonding. There are ways to do it without undue suffering and the emotional (or physical) scarring that goes with it.



"First, do no harm". Theres no need to do it with this suffering unless you just buy into such a mentality. Does this mean parents should beat all of their children and let them try to console eachother to build togetherness?



Youre obviously a traumatized, influenced individual, or a troll. In the former case Id seriously suggest you get therapy and stop believing the shit put in your head by the seminars.



In the latter case, well, go hide under that bridge you came out from under.



In either case, I pray to god you're not a parent.[ This Message was edited by: Nihilanthic on 2006-01-04 13:02 ]"

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And just what qualifications do YOU have to tell this person that what they think is wrong and that they need therapy?  or that they are brainwashed?

He states that HE wasn't abuse, that HE enjoyed his experience.  HE felt that tough rules - not abuse - enforced a sense of bonding.

You weren't there.  You aren't him.  You didn't experience what he did.  Who the hell are you to make judgements about him and tell him he is brainwashed and needs therapy?

"What the layperson would call"  Ah, and just what would you consider yourself?  A trained expert?

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