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Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2006-04-04 17:20:00, Exit Plan wrote:

PS: who names themselves WWASPS?? Talk about truth in advertising!

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White Anglo Saxon Protestants who think God has ordered them to dominate the world.
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russell
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69:

--- Quote ---Perhaps in the midst of your distress at being tortured, you had the presence of mind to inquire about the teachers' certification. All that angst must have caused you to miss the twelve teachers who have been here since before you arrived---including myself.

Stop exaggerating; if you genuinely had an awful time at SCL, offer ideas for improvement and keep it honest.
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tor-ture (t-rchr) n.
1. Infliction of severe physical pain as a means of punishment or coercion.

So long as the hobbit, or any form of isolation exists at SCL, torture will continue. I have been at many psych hospitals, and I have experienced the difference of being placed in isolation in a professional environment, and SCL.

In the hospitals, a kid is placed in isolation only if they are endangering themselves, or others. There are strict regulations, time limits, video cameras, etc.

At SCL, they utilize isolation as punishment. You say the wrong thing to staff, you get sent to isolation for a few days. If you don't cry enough for Gilrease, and "choose out" you spend a few nights in isolation. This is true for a variety of "Cat 5's" and other offenses. Running gets you a stay in isolation. In isolation you recceive a severely lacking diet (only two meals a day, banana and plain bagel for breakfast, tortilla, spoonful of black beans, and handful of lettuce for dinner, toiletry cup for water). No access to clean toilet facilities (portapotty with 50 foot 'walk of shame') for your entire stay. A shower only every three days. The staff are completely isolated and physical violence commonly occurs. It is freezing in winter, you are only allowed one layer, and only a sleeping bag at night. It was freezing, it literally hurt my body as I tried to sleep. Sleeping on a hardwood plank hurts. Kids with mental disorders (girls pulling hair out, boy banging head against wall) spend too much time in isolation, when they should be sent to a professional medical environment. Spending a week straight in a space no bigger than a vanity bathroom hurts your body.

This is, by definition, torture. SCL put us in an extremely uncomfortable physical environment, which abuse commonly occured (I was restrained several times while in the hobbit for no reason, but they find a reason anyways) to ensure our compliance. This is coercion, based on physical and psychological pain. Is this treatment?

Yes, you are right, I had no idea if the teachers were credentialed or not. That was not my point, my meaning was that even if they were qualified, they didn't teach. I don't know if this was your choice or SCL policy, I have no personal animosity towards you. I am not angry, I am sharing my own experience with the only audience who understands. I wish you guys could have actually taught us like normal teachers, and interacted with us. Our class was completely silent all day, my brain went into neutral while there, as I am sure many others do.

From my experience, the entire program is designed to ensure compliance, utilizing whatever means necessary. I no longer think the lack of proper facilities, educational tools, licensed professionals, etc. is a mistake. I think it's all part of the plan, which is for the higher-ups to get rich and richer, without care for those of us entangled in it's mess.

I don't really have any advice for parents seeking alternatives to these programs. All I am hear to say is I was treated like shit at SCL, and came out ten times worse psychologically than when I went in. I still have issues from that place, and I was only there seven months. I can only imagine what is was like for those locked up for years and treated badly.

I have been completely honest, I have nothing to hide. I'll take your word for it I was wrong about the teacher credentials, I hope you are in a place where you can utilize your ability now.
The wretchedness of religion is at once an expression and a protest against real wretchedness. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the feeling of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of unspiritual conditions. It is the opium of the people.
--Karl Marx, German economist and political philosopher
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http://http://www.tbfight.com | http://http://www.antiwwasp.com | http://http://www.pianofinders.com/es/breakingthesecrecy.htm |[ This Message was edited by: Exit Plan on 2006-04-04 19:45 ]

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A lot of physical abuse occured while in worksheets too. Whenever I was in worksheets the staff was this young, couldn't have been more than 22, program graduate, who absolutely hated working worksheets. There was this one kid in my family who basically lived in the hobbit and worksheets, he never left. He was barely human, looking in his eyes was scary. It was like lights were on, but nobody was home. He shouldn't have been kept at SCL. He was the punching bag as far as I could tell. It was crazy. He just took it, never stood up for himself, it was like he just wasn't even there. He would do stupid shit all the time and get in trouble in worksheets, and that young staff would bang his head down on the hardwood desk, slam him to the ground and press his elbows into him, all kinds of gnarly shit. This kid would just keep getting up, even though he knew he would get "restrained". I don't know why he kept doing it, I can only guess he had just lost it. Why was he kept at SCL?

When I was up in the hobbit, they brought a girl into the cell next to me because she couldn't stop pulling her hair out. Since I got out I have researched this, and it is a psychological disorder. She was in the hobbit for a day or two waiting for transport to high impact. Another kid I shared my hobbit cell with, a rastafarian fellow, was awaiting transfer to tranquility bay while his parents worked out his passport. He was a smart guy, wish I could remember his name. He was sent away because he had a strong mind, and resisted the seminars and program.

I saw and experienced physical and psychological abuse while at SCL. I can only imagine what I didn't see, I have read horrible stories, in which mine pales in comparison. TB, High Impact, Samoa, those are all in another category all their own as far as physical torture, we've all seen the evidence.

We had a 12 year old in our family, a 12 year old! In a lower level family made up of mostly 15-17 year old, agressive boys. Five years isn't much difference as adults, but at that age, it's a different world. We were treated as if we were cattle in a factory. No individual treatment at all. Mass help, come one, come all, no matter what your ills, we can solve 'em!! Sounds familiar, kind of like a snake oil salesman.

The nature of the program breeds psychological harm, violence and abuse. I don't have any suggestions, because I don't feel any of it is worth saving. That's my opinion, based on my experience.
Everything that people say to you is personal. Whether it is constructive criticism or not will determine whether it cam from and asshole or not.

----Bill Warbis
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Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2006-04-04 12:05:00, Exit Plan wrote:

"So far the pro-wwasps myspace group has about 20-30 members (including one dog).
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Yeah, but if you read the postings, many of those 20 members say they did not have a good experience. They just are not allowed to elaborate, or the moderator will delete their posts and ban them. At best, some are neutral, meaning that they hated WWASP but acknowledge that they made great friendships with their peers.

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