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Anyone grateful for the time at Spring Creek Lodge?

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--- Quote ---On 2006-04-04 11:10:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-04-02 12:46:00, Badpuppy wrote:


"What you argued was that the ends justified the means. You see Chelsea, torture has no accpetance in civilized society. If your program had an ounce of integrity it would give you the credit, not the program. If it had an ounce of integrity it would have provided you with certified teachers, not "self paced study" And if the program had an ounce of itegrity it wouldn't advertise with pictures that were not of the facilities.


And if you got pregnant and had to put the kid up for adoption, you would be giving some couple the greatest gift possible. Forever, they would thank you in their prayers. "


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Torture? Oh, horse****.

 :rofl:



And for a list of the certified teachers---at least five of whom have MA's or better---go to the state board website. As far as giving Chelsea credit, this girl kicks butt, and she knows it without anyone rattling on about it. She knows she's the one that made things happen.



 :wave: "

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I was tortured at WWASPS. Why do you find that so funny?

The schooling at SCL is a joke. Luckily I was only there for a short while before I turned 18 and had finished the majority of my high school education. The kids who spend a significant amount of time there, will be at a serious intellectual disadvantage when they leave. The longer they stay the worse the disadvantage. Not just intellectually, but also socially.

You cannot take one example of a student who feels the benifitted and apply it to everyone else. Yes, there is a small minority of those who will praise the program. The overwhelming majority would disagree, strongly.

I was there in 2000-2001 and there were no teachers that were certified, if they were the state needs to raise it standards. Just locals who babysat the kids as they all worked independently on their own. Remember the class ranges in ages from 12-18. Hard to teach a class like that, and they provide zero one on one tutoring or anything like that.

If you believe what WWASPS puts on it website, I've got a bridge to sell you. They give parents brochures and information with pictures that are not even of the facility they are sending their kid to. They lie. They profit. Kids suffer.
Black markets will always be with us. But they will recede in importance when our public morality is consistent with our private one.


Eric Schlosser, Reefer Madness
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CCM girl 1989:
Yes, I remember self-paced studies. I remember having the work book, and you put all answers on a seperate page. I also remember them putting me on some really stong anti-depressants.........then me forgetting to put things on paper........then writing all over the work books. I got in trouble, but honestly it was the medication, I didn't mean to do that!

Anonymous:
Reading that Chelsea believes the program "saved her life" and prevented  her from becoming pregnant makes me want to cry.How sad.This girl   young gril has lost her self respect to a cult.

You would have been ok anyway.

69:
Yeah, I remember when we would take our "tests", which would count for a full school credit, the teacher would mark the wrong answers, then hand us back the test to show us which ones we got wrong. Then we could take it back to our desk and then when we felt like it, return to the front and retake the same test. The same multiple choice and true/false test. You could take a test without reading anything, memorize your wrong answers and keep guessing until you got it right! I used to sleep behind a book almost everyday.

We should make a t-shirt something like...

"What I learned at WWASPS -- how to sleep while looking awake 101"

I am serious, unless your kid is a retard, they will find the schooling at WWASPS quite simple and useless. All they provide is "busy work" for kids to complete, not an education. If they have a learning disability, it would be putting them at an EXTREME disadvantage in the future. I can't imagine a parent putting their kid at SCL for the academic program... but who knows, they lie about everything else too.  Parents, beware the sting of WWASPS!!  

PS: who names themselves WWASPS?? Talk about truth in advertising!


Step 1. We came to understand that the government is powerless over people's private use of drugs and that the War on Drugs was making the government's life unmanageable.

--Scott Tillinghast
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[ This Message was edited by: Exit Plan on 2006-04-04 17:22 ]

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--- Quote ---On 2006-04-04 12:14:00, Exit Plan wrote:

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On 2006-04-04 11:10:00, Anonymous wrote:


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On 2006-04-02 12:46:00, Badpuppy wrote:



"What you argued was that the ends justified the means. You see Chelsea, torture has no accpetance in civilized society. If your program had an ounce of integrity it would give you the credit, not the program. If it had an ounce of integrity it would have provided you with certified teachers, not "self paced study" And if the program had an ounce of itegrity it wouldn't advertise with pictures that were not of the facilities.



And if you got pregnant and had to put the kid up for adoption, you would be giving some couple the greatest gift possible. Forever, they would thank you in their prayers. "



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Torture? Oh, horse****.


 :rofl:





And for a list of the certified teachers---at least five of whom have MA's or better---go to the state board website. As far as giving Chelsea credit, this girl kicks butt, and she knows it without anyone rattling on about it. She knows she's the one that made things happen.





 :wave: "


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I was tortured at WWASPS. Why do you find that so funny?



The schooling at SCL is a joke. Luckily I was only there for a short while before I turned 18 and had finished the majority of my high school education. The kids who spend a significant amount of time there, will be at a serious intellectual disadvantage when they leave. The longer they stay the worse the disadvantage. Not just intellectually, but also socially.



You cannot take one example of a student who feels the benifitted and apply it to everyone else. Yes, there is a small minority of those who will praise the program. The overwhelming majority would disagree, strongly.



I was there in 2000-2001 and there were no teachers that were certified, if they were the state needs to raise it standards. Just locals who babysat the kids as they all worked independently on their own. Remember the class ranges in ages from 12-18. Hard to teach a class like that, and they provide zero one on one tutoring or anything like that.



If you believe what WWASPS puts on it website, I've got a bridge to sell you. They give parents brochures and information with pictures that are not even of the facility they are sending their kid to. They lie. They profit. Kids suffer.
Black markets will always be with us. But they will recede in importance when our public morality is consistent with our private one.


Eric Schlosser, Reefer Madness
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Perhaps in the midst of your distress at being tortured, you had the presence of mind to inquire about the teachers' certification. All that angst must have caused you to miss the twelve teachers who have been here since before you arrived---including myself.

Stop exaggerating; if you genuinely had an awful time at SCL, offer ideas for improvement and keep it honest.

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