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Hyde School, The Most Truthful Informative Post I have Seen
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-03-18 04:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-03-17 20:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
"2. Teacher/coach who specialized in developing close relationships with the best looking girls in the school, and coaching them about "Leadership" in one-on-one sessions in his office.
This is an easy one! Larry Dubinsky. Total pervert who the administrators protected until a parent finally sued. He should have been arrested, but instead the school told us girls, "you need to confront him and tell him how he makes you feel." oh yeah girls, let's tell Dubinsky that feeling us up to get his rocks off at practice makes us feel uncomfortable. I am sure he would have stopped if we let him know.......NOT!"
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I am sorry to hear that. There is a natural tendency for institutions to circle the wagons in a case like this, to protect the mission. Catholicism and it adherents were the keepers of the knowledge of the golden age through the dark ages in europe. As a non catholic christian and former catholic, I acknowledge the role the Church had in preserving and spreading the Word of Christ. The church has existed for close to two millenia. The recent sex abuse charges against catholic clergy speak to failures both institutional and human but not to failure of the mission of the church to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ.
I would submit that if the assurtions you have made are true, the same is true of hyde. Hyde mission is not to molest pubesent girls any more then the Catholic Church's mission is to sodomize little boys. It is a human failure on the part of an individual and the people surronding that individual not a flaw in the fundemental mission.
How did you pick up the on the Time article if you went to woodstock? I was at that meeting in 76 and forgot all about it. I am tring to remember which andrew .... Mann Swartz? It is really funny (my apologies if Jim is reading this) being confronted by Jim was like encountering a toy poodle as a watch dog. He was really a sweet guy. His wife was a very nice and caring person too. I think her name was Joanna.
The guy that was scary was Paul Hurd. I had a chest Xray recently and the doctor asked how I got the indentations on my chest bone. Just kidding.
sydney"
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I agree that Hyde's mission is not to molest, but the key question is, do you get rid of the molester and keep all the people who covered it up, or do you also get rid of the administrators who believed this was an acceptable way to run a place? If I am not mistaken the Catholic Church got rid of the head of the Church in Boston for the cover-ups, not strictly the molestors.
You wanted more names. I can add to the other ones. Ken Grant who physically attacked at least one girl that I know of, Don McMillan who has attacked at least one kid, and of course the in house pervert Dubinsky who loved to give back rubs to us in sports. Of course the other names were already brought up like the Prophet Joe Gauld. Never did hear of his son Malcolm going at it physically with anyone, so guess that is a plus.
Hey, that's enough for me not to ever recommend Hyde to anyone. The message might be good, but the messengers are one scary group.
Anonymous:
One of you mentioned the name Cavalli. Isn't that a relation to the woman at Woodstock who married one of the fathers? Could this be the same flirtatious administrator who came to Hyde after a bad divorce and was intent on finding herself a rich guy?
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-03-18 05:35:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-03-18 04:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
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--- Quote ---
On 2006-03-17 20:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
"2. Teacher/coach who specialized in developing close relationships with the best looking girls in the school, and coaching them about "Leadership" in one-on-one sessions in his office.
This is an easy one! Larry Dubinsky. Total pervert who the administrators protected until a parent finally sued. He should have been arrested, but instead the school told us girls, "you need to confront him and tell him how he makes you feel." oh yeah girls, let's tell Dubinsky that feeling us up to get his rocks off at practice makes us feel uncomfortable. I am sure he would have stopped if we let him know.......NOT!"
--- End quote ---
I am sorry to hear that. There is a natural tendency for institutions to circle the wagons in a case like this, to protect the mission. Catholicism and it adherents were the keepers of the knowledge of the golden age through the dark ages in europe. As a non catholic christian and former catholic, I acknowledge the role the Church had in preserving and spreading the Word of Christ. The church has existed for close to two millenia. The recent sex abuse charges against catholic clergy speak to failures both institutional and human but not to failure of the mission of the church to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ.
I would submit that if the assurtions you have made are true, the same is true of hyde. Hyde mission is not to molest pubesent girls any more then the Catholic Church's mission is to sodomize little boys. It is a human failure on the part of an individual and the people surronding that individual not a flaw in the fundemental mission.
How did you pick up the on the Time article if you went to woodstock? I was at that meeting in 76 and forgot all about it. I am tring to remember which andrew .... Mann Swartz? It is really funny (my apologies if Jim is reading this) being confronted by Jim was like encountering a toy poodle as a watch dog. He was really a sweet guy. His wife was a very nice and caring person too. I think her name was Joanna.
The guy that was scary was Paul Hurd. I had a chest Xray recently and the doctor asked how I got the indentations on my chest bone. Just kidding.
sydney"
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I agree that Hyde's mission is not to molest, but the key question is, do you get rid of the molester and keep all the people who covered it up, or do you also get rid of the administrators who believed this was an acceptable way to run a place? If I am not mistaken the Catholic Church got rid of the head of the Church in Boston for the cover-ups, not strictly the molestors.
You wanted more names. I can add to the other ones. Ken Grant who physically attacked at least one girl that I know of, Don McMillan who has attacked at least one kid, and of course the in house pervert Dubinsky who loved to give back rubs to us in sports. Of course the other names were already brought up like the Prophet Joe Gauld. Never did hear of his son Malcolm going at it physically with anyone, so guess that is a plus.
Hey, that's enough for me not to ever recommend Hyde to anyone. The message might be good, but the messengers are one scary group."
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Yes Cardinal Law was removed to the Vatican which is a nation state, so that he would be beyond the reach of the legal arm of the Commonweath of Massachusetts (I have always loved that phase). One would hope that an institution that demands high personal standards would look inward to do the same.
Sexualality is a powerful force. The story of King David is an architype that we have seen repeated in the story of Bill Clinton. Bill's down fall was two fold:
He did not keep it in his pants
He lied about it.
It was the lying that got him in trouble.
Everyone has personal failings. It is how you deal with them that defines your charater. The down fall of David was more that he sent Uriah to his death, not just that he surcame to sexual desire of Bathsheba. We tend to remember the sex part of the Story of David, which says something about us.
The thing that bothers me about this story of Larry is not that he is an imperfect person but that Hyde did not live up to expectations for right action on the part of those who were agrieved.
Sidney Hodgson
Anonymous:
The current Director of Training for Teleflex, but I don't mean to suggest anything like what happened at Woodstock; just a funny tendency for him to spend a lot of time with the best looking female students.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-03-18 05:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"One of you mentioned the name Cavalli. Isn't that a relation to the woman at Woodstock who married one of the fathers? Could this be the same flirtatious administrator who came to Hyde after a bad divorce and was intent on finding herself a rich guy?"
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I don't know much about Cavalli's personal story. What I remember is that she was a fairly nice person most of the time who seemed to be under the Hyde spell. In seminar she talked like she bought the Gauld view of the world and wasn't willing to challenge the "word" handed down from on high. Of course, when I was at Hyde there were lots of groupies like that, staff who seemed to have a real hard thinking their own original thoughts and who depended on Gauld and Hyde to tell them how to treat everyone. Very scary. Sometimes Cavalli would get into the Hyde thing and talk to people like they were real little children who needed mommy to tell them what to do.
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