Ridge Creek: Program Effectiveness

[Anonymous]

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RIDGE CREEK PROGRAM EFFECTIVENESS
(Mar. 1, 2004) Ridge Creek Inc., a short term wilderness program based in Dahlonega, Georgia, 706-867-1720, http://www.ridgecreek.org, reported the results of surveys mailed to families of graduates on the 1, 3, 6, and 12 month anniversaries of program completion. Parents evaluating nine areas of the program indicated
50% showed Great Improvement
38% showed Improvement
12% showed No Improvement.
A further note included that 59% of the parents indicating No Improvement did not follow discharge recommendations.
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How many parents were surveyed?
Were all parents surveyed or a select few?
Did an independent third-party conduct the survey?
How many opinions changed between the first and twelfth months?
What are the ?discharge recommendations??
How many attend RC who are not already enrolled at HLA, and does the discharge recommendations include enrolling the kid in HLA?
How could parents gauge effectiveness and/or improvement post RC if their kid was already enrolled at HLA and not at home?

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[RobertBruce]

What are you suggesting that HLA might not have been objective in conducting this survey and may not be providing all nessecary information?

How dare you!

They recieved an award last year from......someone.....for....something. Of which I dont know but Im sure Susie the Bullfrog could ask her boss and theyd tell us.

[Troll Control]

A "survey" is in NO WAY a "study."  Let's see a study, not a marketing tool like a survey.

[SHH Anon Classics]

http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2003 ... /sr966.htm

[Anonymous]

uh, that's not a survey or a study, but a commendation, perhaps awarded based on faulty information and in-house 'survies' provided by HLA.
how were they selected/nominated? did sen. jackson have a kid enrolled there? were the factoids provided by HLA scrutinized, or just accepted at face value?

[Anonymous]

interesting. in 2003 (the year before) the numbers from the survey were advertised differently. was enrollment low in 2004 when the results presented were more favorable?

RIDGE CREEK PARENT SURVEYS SHOW PROGRAM EFFECTIVENESS
(March 11, 2003) Ridge Creek, Dahlonega, GA, 706-867-1720, announced the results of their parent surveys taken in 2002, in which

64% of the parents report improvement
23% report great improvement
13% reporting no improvement

vs 38%, 50%, and 12% respectively

[RobertBruce]

Interestingly enough the majority of the "whereas" are taken directly from the school website. And we all know how truthfull HLA is on things.

Also I wonder if we were to take a look at Senator Jacksons campaign contributers list if wed find any familiar names.

[WestSideStud2430]

If when you say Senator Jackson you are referring to State Senator Cathy Jackson (originally from White County, GA, one county over from Lumpkin (where Dahlonega and HLA are located), yes, they are supporters, as she came to HLA and gave a speech to the whole student body a number of months ago (because I was there and saw it) and it was pictured and written about in the school newsletter (Lakeside Reflections).  If I still have mine in my mess of HLA boxes (courtesy of COD shipping and beat-up oil-stained SYSCO boxes) I'll scan the pages.

[RobertBruce]

uh oh more truth coming out.

[SHH Anon Classics]

Why would you assume that something illegal took place? It is possible that this senator due to her home town knows about the school and recommended it for a commendation due to her knowledge of it. There is nothing shady about that at all. She happened to be familiar with it. If this action is illegal please inform the rest of us who don't "get it".

[Anonymous]

***I wonder if we were to take a look at Senator Jacksons campaign contributers list if wed find any familiar names.

I think you might. Found nothing prior to 2005. Records did not offer information prior to 2003.
Appears they are supporting her bid for SoS.

http://www.sos.state.ga.us/cgi-bin/Elec ... Code=00450                              
Office Sought: SECRETARY OF STATE
Reporting Entity: Carol Jackson      
Reporting Period: Non-Election Year: June 30, 2005
chairperson and/or Treasurer: Linda Hays & Sandra Glass
Contact Telephone: (706) 219-2419      
Address: P.O. Box 2246            
Cleveland, GA 30528            
Campaign Committee?   Yes         
Registered with Secretary of State?   Yes   

                  
2005 Political Contributions                                 
9   O   Drew Buccellato      
        4590 Northside Dr.   
        Atlanta GA 30327   
        5/16/2005   
        Head Master - St. Francis High School   Primary   $150.00    $0.00


10  O   John & Susan Buccellato   
        3059 Farmington Dr. NW   
        Atlanta GA 30339   
        6/16/2005   
        Accountant - Self   
        Primary   $150.00    $0.00


18   O   Dr. Janet B Page
    2660 Peachtree Rd   
        Atlanta GA 30305   
        7/6/2005   
        Psychologist - Self   
        Primary    $150.00    $0.00


19   O   Martin G Quirk
        110 Hidden Falls Ln. NW
    Atlanta GA 30325-9242   
        6/17/2005   
        councelor - self   
        Primary   $200.00    $0.00


20   O   Ridge Creek, Inc.      
        830 Hidden Lake Rd
   Dahlonega GA 30533   
        3/30/2005   
        Investor - Self   Primary   $2,000.00    $0.00

[Troll Control]

On 2005-12-18 12:44:00, Anonymous wrote:

"***I wonder if we were to take a look at Senator Jacksons campaign contributers list if wed find any familiar names.



I think you might. Found nothing prior to 2005. Records did not offer information prior to 2003.

Appears they are supporting her bid for SoS.



http://www.sos.state.ga.us/cgi-bin/Elec ... Code=00450                              

Office Sought: SECRETARY OF STATE

Reporting Entity: Carol Jackson      

Reporting Period: Non-Election Year: June 30, 2005

chairperson and/or Treasurer: Linda Hays & Sandra Glass

Contact Telephone: (706) 219-2419      

Address: P.O. Box 2246            

Cleveland, GA 30528            

Campaign Committee?   Yes         

Registered with Secretary of State?   Yes   



                  

2005 Political Contributions                                 

9   O   Drew Buccellato      

        4590 Northside Dr.   

        Atlanta GA 30327   

        5/16/2005   

        Head Master - St. Francis High School   Primary   $150.00    $0.00





10  O   John & Susan Buccellato   

        3059 Farmington Dr. NW   

        Atlanta GA 30339   

        6/16/2005   

        Accountant - Self   

        Primary   $150.00    $0.00





18   O   Dr. Janet B Page

    2660 Peachtree Rd   

        Atlanta GA 30305   

        7/6/2005   

        Psychologist - Self   

        Primary    $150.00    $0.00





19   O   Martin G Quirk

        110 Hidden Falls Ln. NW

    Atlanta GA 30325-9242   

        6/17/2005   

        councelor - self   

        Primary   $200.00    $0.00





20   O   Ridge Creek, Inc.      

        830 Hidden Lake Rd

   Dahlonega GA 30533   

        3/30/2005   

        Investor - Self   Primary   $2,000.00    $0.00

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Nice job D.  It couldn't be any more obvious than this, now could it?  Funny, ain't it?

[RobertBruce]

Not that they will acknowledge the truth even now. Its a disease they have makes them incapable of it.

[SHH Anon Classics]

And this means what? If you look at the total of those amounts, they aren't very much. Not to mention it is not illegal for anybody on that list to contribute to her if they know her. Nothing illegal, once again.

[Troll Control]

On 2005-12-18 16:10:00, Anonymous wrote:

"And this means what? If you look at the total of those amounts, they aren't very much. Not to mention it is not illegal for anybody on that list to contribute to her if they know her. Nothing illegal, once again."

it certainly doesn't jive with your story of the "innocent meeting," now does it?  say what you will, but everyone knows how to pay for/peddle influence and i have to admit that len is an extrordinary networker.

that being said, take a look at some of the other "unregulated TBS's" and you will see the extrordinary lengths to which they go financially to extinguish undesired legislation.  it's all public record, so it's not hard to find.  these people make a lot of money and pay a lot of money for a lot of influence.  you're naive if you think otherwise.