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« Reply #105 on: December 28, 2005, 08:47:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-28 17:36:00, puma046 wrote:

"A cult?!?!?!? You guys are just plain stupid - clearly you have never seen a real cult before. "
Thank you..These people are little cry baby faggots that like to shed there tears on a message board! :rofl:  :lol:  A cult! Come the FUCK ON you idiots!!  :lol:
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« Reply #106 on: December 28, 2005, 08:57:00 PM »
Anything look vaguely familiar?


http://www.ex-cult.org/bite.html

Mind Control - The BITE Model
From chapter two of Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves

© 2000 by Steven Hassan - published by Freedom of Mind Press, Somerville MA


Destructive mind control can be understood in terms of four basic components, which form the acronym BITE:


I.  Behavior Control  
II.  Information Control  
III. Thought Control  
IV.  Emotional Control  






I. Behavior Control

1. Regulation of individual?s physical reality

a. Where, how and with whom the member lives and associates with
b. What clothes, colors, hairstyles the person wears
c. What food the person eats, drinks, adopts, and rejects
d. How much sleep the person is able to have
e. Financial dependence
f. Little or no time spent on leisure, entertainment, vacations


2. Major time commitment required for indoctrination sessions and group rituals

3. Need to ask permission for major decisions

4. Need to report thoughts, feelings and activities to superiors

5. Rewards and punishments (behavior modification techniques- positive and negative).

5. Individualism discouraged; group think prevails

6. Rigid rules and regulations

7. Need for obedience and dependency


II. Information Control

1. Use of deception

a. Deliberately holding back information
b. Distorting information to make it acceptable
c. Outright lying


2. Access to non-cult sources of information minimized or discouraged


a. Books, articles, newspapers, magazines, TV, radio
b. Critical information
c. Former members
d. Keep members so busy they don?t have time to think


3. Compartmentalization of information; Outsider vs. Insider doctrines


a. Information is not freely accessible
b. Information varies at different levels and missions within pyramid
c. Leadership decides who "needs to know" what


4. Spying on other members is encouraged


a. Pairing up with "buddy" system to monitor and control
b. Reporting deviant thoughts, feelings, and actions to leadership


5. Extensive use of cult generated information and propaganda


a. Newsletters, magazines, journals, audio tapes, videotapes, etc.
b. Misquotations, statements taken out of context from non-cult sources


6. Unethical use of confession


a. Information about "sins" used to abolish identity boundaries
b. Past "sins" used to manipulate and control; no forgiveness or absolution


III. Thought Control

1. Need to internalize the group?s doctrine as "Truth"


a. Map = Reality
b. Black and White thinking
c. Good vs. evil
d. Us vs. them (inside vs. outside)


2. Adopt "loaded" language (characterized by "thought-terminating clichés"). Words are the tools we use to think with. These "special" words constrict rather than expand understanding. They function to reduce complexities of experience into trite, platitudinous "buzz words".

3. Only "good" and "proper" thoughts are encouraged.

4. Thought-stopping techniques (to shut down "reality testing" by stopping "negative" thoughts and allowing only "good" thoughts); rejection of rational analysis, critical thinking, constructive criticism.


a. Denial, rationalization, justification, wishful thinking
b. Chanting
c. Meditating
d. Praying
e. Speaking in "tongues"
f. Singing or humming


5. No critical questions about leader, doctrine, or policy seen as legitimate

6. No alternative belief systems viewed as legitimate, good, or useful


IV. Emotional Control

1. Manipulate and narrow the range of a person?s feelings.

2. Make the person feel like if there are ever any problems it is always their fault, never the leader?s or the group?s.

3. Excessive use of guilt


a. Identity guilt


1. Who you are (not living up to your potential)
2. Your family
3. Your past
4. Your affiliations
5. Your thoughts, feelings, actions


b. Social guilt
c. Historical guilt


4. Excessive use of fear


a. Fear of thinking independently
b. Fear of the "outside" world
c. Fear of enemies
d. Fear of losing one?s "salvation"
e. Fear of leaving the group or being shunned by group
f. Fear of disapproval


5. Extremes of emotional highs and lows.

6. Ritual and often public confession of "sins".

7. Phobia indoctrination : programming of irrational fears of ever leaving the group or even questioning the leader?s authority. The person under mind control cannot visualize a positive, fulfilled future without being in the group.


a. No happiness or fulfillment "outside"of the group
b. Terrible consequences will take place if you leave: "hell"; "demon possession"; "incurable diseases"; "accidents"; "suicide"; "insanity"; "10,000 reincarnations"; etc.
c. Shunning of leave takers. Fear of being rejected by friends, peers, and family.
d. Never a legitimate reason to leave. From the group?s perspective, people who leave are: "weak"; "undisciplined"; "unspiritual"; "worldly"; "brainwashed by family, counselors"; seduced by money, sex, rock and roll.
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« Reply #107 on: December 28, 2005, 09:05:00 PM »
Nope, doesnt seem familiar to me, ya fuckin jerk-off..Now go get a job!! :lol:
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« Reply #108 on: December 28, 2005, 10:18:00 PM »
<< "Anything look vaguely familiar?


http://www.ex-cult.org/bite.html

Mind Control - The BITE Model
From chapter two of Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves

© 2000 by Steven Hassan - published by Freedom of Mind Press, Somerville MA" >>


YES!  That is very much what Cedu was like and exactly the practices that they used to manipulate us into doing what they wanted.  And if those things that are listed (and previosly listed a few posts back) are classified as a cult then I experienced living in a  cult!  No black and white thinking here just finally admiting to the truth of what I believe was happening when I was there.  It does explain alot about what really went on there and the way things are now.  Cedu was a bad place, didn't really serve a true purpose in society and now I know that it was just a cult experience, so now I know how to heal and try move on.
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« Reply #109 on: December 28, 2005, 10:41:00 PM »
It was NOT and IS NOT a fucking cult! Morons~~~
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« Reply #110 on: December 28, 2005, 10:46:00 PM »
Easy there Cujo, easy boy.   :lol:  You don't think its a cult, others do.
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« Reply #111 on: December 28, 2005, 10:51:00 PM »
Lick my applesack :wave:
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« Reply #112 on: December 28, 2005, 10:52:00 PM »
Son of Serbia says "That's just my opinion. You can go ahead and ignore me if you want, but I'm not going anywhere."

Fair enough Son of Serbia.  You're not going anywhere and I guess you're happy with that situation.

Some of us do want to learn from life and grow from what we learn.

See ya round, likely around here where you're still whinging about how mean CEDU was to you
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« Reply #113 on: December 28, 2005, 11:52:00 PM »
I found CEDU to be pretty cult-ish, and I wasn't even really exposed to the "Emotional Growth" side of things.  I'm assuming that's more or less what this thread has turned into, and I'm sorry I don't have the time to read all 12 pages of it!
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« Reply #114 on: December 29, 2005, 09:17:00 AM »
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On 2005-12-28 19:52:00, Anonymous wrote:

"See ya round, likely around here where you're still whinging about how mean CEDU was to you"




 :wstupid: What the hell does "whinging" mean, anyway?  
 

Aside from the obvious spelling error, your sentence contains multiple grammatical and/or punctual errors.  It's not the sort of thing that an "Intellectually Brighter Person" would write.

You see pal, while you spent your formative
years "learning and growing", I was getting a REAL EDUCATION.  Allow me to demonstrate to you how an intelligent person might have phrased that:

>I'll see you around, most likely here, where you'll continue whining about how Cedu abused you.<

And another thing: You may have a "balanced viewpoint", but that doesn't make you smarter than the rest of us.

There is one thing I'd like to know, from those who defend the alledged positive aspects of the program:   What good is "learning and growing" at Cedu, when in the end you really don't know anything?  :???:






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« Reply #115 on: December 29, 2005, 01:23:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-28 15:21:00, Anonymous wrote:

Castle, I dunno why you bother arguing with people around here. It must get frustrating trying to explain your point of view to people who are too shallow to understand that there are at least two points of view to everything.


Well, I view it more of a discussion, because most of the people I'm respondng to aren't the individuals who are flaming people.

SoS, "whigning" is a joke spelling of "whining". I think that trend started on the internet.
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« Reply #116 on: December 29, 2005, 02:21:00 PM »
Well, I'm not joking when I say that the original poster is unintellegent.
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« Reply #117 on: December 29, 2005, 04:06:00 PM »
Son Of Siberia ---kill yourself
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« Reply #118 on: December 29, 2005, 08:58:00 PM »
While you're at it, kill yourself twice Serbia.  You're that annoying so let's not leave any room for error
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« Reply #119 on: December 29, 2005, 09:12:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-29 17:58:00, Anonymous wrote:

"While you're at it, kill yourself twice Serbia.  You're that annoying so let's not leave any room for error"
:tup:  :lol:
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