Diagnosing Hyde: The Gauld Effect

[Anonymous]

On 2005-12-11 13:09:00, Hyde's Attorney wrote:

"I have also encouraged Joseph Gauld to review this board and perhaps set up a conference call with the people who have something to say about Joe's qualitys and actions and the state of The Hyde School itself. I'll keep you informed of any and all happenings. Have a great evening folks."

Anything you have to say is irrelevant as long as you hide behind this "Hyde's attorney" garbage!  I am certain you are not who you say you are nor do you have an association with Joe Gauld as you claim.  Even Joe would not be stupid enough to have someone like you speak for him.

I am sorry to sound so rough, but I have spent a lot of time trying to acknowledge or dispute information on this board and you do not seem to be a sincere person, but instead are trying to play head games.  If you did go to Hyde, I strongly suggest you look at the "five words" and try to practice them!  If you are not interested in being honest and mature, then please go post on another board!

[Anonymous]

Im not on anyone's side here, but you dont have to speak so rudely to "attorney". Learn some fucking manners and stop sounding so anal. It makes the ones who are opposed to Hyde look bad.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-12-11 16:53:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Im not on anyone's side here, but you dont have to speak so rudely to "attorney". Learn some fucking manners and stop sounding so anal. It makes the ones who are opposed to Hyde look bad. "

I agree, but is the foul language really necessary ?

[Anonymous]

On 2005-12-11 05:24:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-12-10 13:15:00, Anonymous wrote:


"I just had a major insight.  





Background: Many of the comments on this website note that Hyde has some classic cult features.  The article by James Traub about Hyde in the Hoover Institution publication reinforces what many of us have observed during our time at Hyde.  In addition, a couple of people on this website have observed that Joe Gauld has some of the classic features of a cult leader, including narcissism.  (Recently at a Hyde weekend I saw Joe Gauld "hold court" with Hyde parents and do that routine where he goes around the room and "diagnoses" parents and their circumstances, parenting instincts, etc.  I witnessed a horrible incident where Gauld confronted one particular parent, demeaned the parent horribly, and eventually "ordered" the parent to leave.  I couldn't believe Gauld's gall and audacity.  That incident convinced me, more than ever, that Hyde is a very dangerous environment.)





Well, I just came across a document, unexpectedly, that REALLY helps me understand what Joe Gauld is all about.  It's the formal definition of narcissism used by the American Psychiatric Association in its diagnositic manual.  When I read this the lightbulb went on!  For those of you who know Joe Gauld and have watched him in action, observed how he treats Hyde parents and students, how he patronizes and demeans others and draws attention to himself, how he explodes on occasion and arrogantly assumes that he has the answers . . . keep all of this in mind as you read the American Psychiatric Association's definition of narcissistic personality disorder.  I can't believe the overlap between Joe Gauld's profile and this definition.  Here it is (quoted word for word):





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Diagnostic Criteria





A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:





   1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)


   2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love


   3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)


   4. requires excessive admiration


   5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations


   6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends


   7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others


   8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her


   9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes





It has taken my family and me some time to really understand Hyde and its all-too-often destructive influence.  This APA summary has helped me get a handle on what's going on at Hyde.  This makes me more determined than ever to let parents who are considering Hyde know what they'd encounter if they enroll."

This summary of the American Psychiatric Association's definition of narcissistic personality disorder is an AMAZINGLY accurate summary of Joe Gauld."

"I also agree. This is the definition of Mr. Gauld, I could not have said it better myself."

[Troll Control]

On 2005-12-11 17:13:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-12-11 16:53:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Im not on anyone's side here, but you dont have to speak so rudely to "attorney". Learn some fucking manners and stop sounding so anal. It makes the ones who are opposed to Hyde look bad. "

I agree, but is the foul language really necessary ?"

Yes.  Yes, it is fucking necessary.  It's a fucking absolute mother-fucking goddamn necessity.  Now fucking carry the fuck on.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-12-12 13:57:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-12-11 17:13:00, Anonymous wrote:


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On 2005-12-11 16:53:00, Anonymous wrote:



"Im not on anyone's side here, but you dont have to speak so rudely to "attorney". Learn some fucking manners and stop sounding so anal. It makes the ones who are opposed to Hyde look bad. "

I agree, but is the foul language really necessary ?"

Yes.  Yes, it is fucking necessary.  It's a fucking absolute mother-fucking goddamn necessity.  Now fucking carry the fuck on.  

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If you feel the need to use this language please go somewhere else. It is completely inappropriate. Grow up!!

[Anonymous]

I don't know what they would have done to his soft ass at "THAT" place but rest assured we wiped the sweat off the wrestling mat with LARS face on a daily basis.

[Lars]

On 2005-12-12 15:30:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I don't know what they would have done to his soft ass at "THAT" place but rest assured we wiped the sweat off the wrestling mat with LARS face on a daily basis. "

So who are you?  I beat most of the other wrestlers there pretty easily.  Just curious.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-12-12 17:49:00, Lars wrote:

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On 2005-12-12 15:30:00, Anonymous wrote:


"I don't know what they would have done to his soft ass at "THAT" place but rest assured we wiped the sweat off the wrestling mat with LARS face on a daily basis. "

So who are you?  I beat most of the other wrestlers there pretty easily.  Just curious."

No way!!! :lol:

[Lars]

No way!!! ::bangin::

[Anonymous]

Wasn't that me, a male, on Novemer 4th, 2005?

[Anonymous]

Hyde is a soft cake walk, get over it already!

[Anonymous]

On 2005-12-10 13:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

I witnessed a horrible incident where Gauld confronted one particular parent, demeaned the parent horribly, and eventually "ordered" the parent to leave.  I couldn't believe Gauld's gall and audacity.  That incident convinced me, more than ever, that Hyde is a very dangerous environment.)

Do you know what Joe knows about this person?  I ask because you provide no details or the substance of the conversation and more importantly, how much information Joe may have about this person or their family, without which, I don't know how you can reach any conclusion.  That is, you only say one side of the story, through your personal filter, and then made your own conclusions.

If someone is a really bad parent completely fucking up their child or with totally screwed up priorities, I have no issue with shaking them up.  You want touchy-feely go somewhere else.  You want someone to tell you their truth at any cost, regardless of whether its right or wrong, but with enough experience to at least have a better idea than most on the topic, then go to Hyde.

By providing no information except conclusions which you matched up against a DSM definition, not a big surprise that they match, don't you think?

[Anonymous]

On 2006-02-18 12:14:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-12-10 13:15:00, Anonymous wrote:


I witnessed a horrible incident where Gauld confronted one particular parent, demeaned the parent horribly, and eventually "ordered" the parent to leave.  I couldn't believe Gauld's gall and audacity.  That incident convinced me, more than ever, that Hyde is a very dangerous environment.)

Do you know what Joe knows about this person?  I ask because you provide no details or the substance of the conversation and more importantly, how much information Joe may have about this person or their family, without which, I don't know how you can reach any conclusion.  That is, you only say one side of the story, through your personal filter, and then made your own conclusions.



If someone is a really bad parent completely fucking up their child or with totally screwed up priorities, I have no issue with shaking them up.  You want touchy-feely go somewhere else.  You want someone to tell you their truth at any cost, regardless of whether its right or wrong, but with enough experience to at least have a better idea than most on the topic, then go to Hyde.



By providing no information except conclusions which you matched up against a DSM definition, not a big surprise that they match, don't you think?"

I too have seen Joe Gauld "lose it" with parents.  You may think this is justified.  I don't.  It's fine with me if a Hyde administrator gives parents helpful feedback and even challenge parents to address their own issues.  What I can't accept is Joe Gauld's haughty, arrogant, dismissive, rude behavior.  That is very poor role modeling and a very destructive way for adults to treat one another.  Heaven only knows how they treat the students when we're not there.  

Whoever posted the observation about Gauld to which you are responding is perceptive, I think.  What that person described is not an isolated incident.  I've seen a number of these Joe Gauld incidents myself; I think they're inexcusable.

[Anonymous]

I love Hyde School.