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TheWho:

--- Quote ---Oh lordy - better go put on your tin-foil hat!

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Ha,Ha,Ha,  thats funny!!

Thank you guest, it is refreshing to listen to an honest perspective and account of how these programs help kids.  Your description will probably help many other parents to make the right decision for their child.

Anonymous:
I guess that answers my question. Elliot does employ people on the weekend as well. They are deffinitely scared. Although I will say, most of these kids are better off in a behavior-modification program then with their neurotic parents who are more concerned with money and plastic surgery then raising their own children. Shame. It's just a convient way for the parents to dump their problems off in someone else's lap. If these kids do go home they regress after only a month or two, because their parents don't want to change.
Of course there is no sense in trying to address a parent on this site as they are too busy to raise their own children, let alone check an obscure website (My apologies to the one or two truly concerned parents who are doing a thorough investigation before they enroll their child in a program). This is clearly a rant site.
Which brings us to my main point, check out the anger of the previous "Guest" (The Who), they are obviously enraged that we can see through their attempt to mask their employer, right down to the city and state they work in (did I get the salary right too?). This site is going from obscure to mainstream, congratulations concerned citizens!

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---most of these kids are better off in a behavior-modification program then with their neurotic parents who are more concerned with money and plastic surgery then raising their own children.
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Well, our daughter is close to graduation, so I thought I'd see what other bullshit is floating around here.

That quote is another laugher.  You don't need a tinfoil hat, you need a friggin' straightjacket.  If you were able to attend any of the parent weeks, you would find a mix of folks...most of whom are not wealthy...who are working hard as hell to keep their kid's *alive* - and the AR program is only part of it.  There's a tremendous amount of aftercare information and discussion, both with parents and entire families.

I've encountered I think one slightly neurotic mom, but she was the exception rather than the rule.  There have been no upper-crust "Lance and Buffy" types at all, just normal parents struggling with kids who have a variety of issues.  NOT ONE *wanted* their child to be there - for most it seems to be the last resort; personally, I wish it wasn't and people could get their kids in much sooner.  I wish we had.

But to me, the important thing is the place has...without a single doubt...saved our daughter's life.  TO sum up some of the other things:  She's graduating from high school a year EARLY, and home-district had her do testing (plus she had a great SAT score) so it's no fluke, and she gets a DUAL diploma from Utah and our home state.  She's happy, healthy - recently had another home visit that was totally without issues.  She has direction in her life, and although she will have on going therapy for some time due to the trauma that triggered her particular problems, she understands it and is dealing with it from a healthy perspective.

A side benefit is she already has a part-time job (while she goes to college) working for a horse trainer...which is good, because the downside (if you can call it that) is she/we are in the process of buying a horse!  But, since she's no looking into equine-related veterinary medicine, that's really a benefit.

I'm truly sorry a lot of you just do not understand the program, but it seems you're just going off the slanted "Brat Camp" stories, and piling on based on crap posted by people with NO facts, who've never been there, and have never spoken to a student or parent who has.

In fact, I wonder how many of the crap-flingers are even parents?

Regardless, I'll try to remember to come back in a few months and post an update on how she's doing.  If things go awry, I am not afraid to post that either.  However, based on what I've seen, on what her local therapist has said, what the local school people plus some adult mentors have observed I don't anticipate anything other than normal 17-year old daughter stuff.

I sincerely hope these posts help someone and help cut through the lies and unqualified judgments.

Anonymous:
:wstupid:
Let's just hope your kid comes home safe.  You might try the therepy they have there yourself, since your so gung ho about it!

Covergaard:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---I'm truly sorry a lot of you just do not understand the program, but it seems you're just going off the slanted "Brat Camp" stories, and piling on based on crap posted by people with NO facts, who've never been there, and have never spoken to a student or parent who has.

In fact, I wonder how many of the crap-flingers are even parents?

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We think we understand the program and yes I am a proud parent. Just last Saturday our police was fighting 8-12 years drunks on the beach and my daughter was NOT among them. (We have no lower limit for alcohol consumption in Denmark because we want to lower the number of people killed due to DUI. We are now talking of 73 deaths during the entire year of 2006 out of 5,000,000 people, so we are close.)

But could you not try to get your daughter to demonstrate PCS on you and exactly how long does they wrist the arm.?

I have found this video-clip from another Aspen facility (AAA). Please listen to the sound from the narrator.

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