Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
My son is currently at Aspen Ranch
Covergaard:
They are going to discuss it at the wikipedia convention in Taipai, but it seems that the American version is not going to have anything about AR on it, but all other wikipedia-versions are going to have a translated version of this page on them:
http://www.secretprisonsforteens.dk/US/AspenRanch.htm
It seems that it have something to do with differences in culture. Most other countries have ratified the UN Convention of a child, which does not allow parents to lock up a child in a private prison without approval and supervision of the authorities.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention ... of_a_Child
En.Wikipedia seems to contain a narrow american view on things. Perhaps it should be renamed to us.wikipedia. And as it is common in your country, this kind of "school" is an absolutely no-speak item. So no page on Aspen Ranch are to be found on en.wikipedia.
TheWho:
Covergaard wrote:
--- Quote --- And as it is common in your country, this kind of "school" is an absolutely no-speak item.
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Actually, my experience has shown it to be just the opposite. Residential programs and wilderness are spoken of openly here in the US on talk shows, parent magazines and a series called “Brat Camp” was aired in the US over recent years. It takes awhile for information to get out to the public sometimes.
--- Quote ---So no page on Aspen Ranch are to be found on en.wikipedia.
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Look halfway down under “Residential Programs”, you might have missed it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspen_Education_Group
Here is a direct link to the Aspen Ranch home page
http://www.aspenranch.com/
or just google the phrase “Aspen Ranch”
Anonymous:
Aspen is actually running a brain-washing facility for the Religous Right. True story. Seriously though, has anyone noticed if they(Aspen) pay someone to make comments on this site on the weekend or is it strictly 9-5 M-F? You can notice that they are now using Guest profiles more frequently, mixing it up a bit. This site has obviously got their attention. "The Who" is most likely working in Cerritos California puling down 60 g's a year just to respond to crap said on this site. I applaud the rebels who post here for their small victory over a corporate giant.
Deborah:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Aspen is actually running a brain-washing facility for the Religous Right. True story. Seriously though, has anyone noticed if they(Aspen) pay someone to make comments on this site on the weekend or is it strictly 9-5 M-F? You can notice that they are now using Guest profiles more frequently, mixing it up a bit. This site has obviously got their attention. "The Who" is most likely working in Cerritos California puling down 60 g's a year just to respond to crap said on this site. I applaud the rebels who post here for their small victory over a corporate giant.
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:wink:
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---Aspen is actually running a brain-washing facility for the Religous Right. True story.
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Oh lordy - better go put on your tin-foil hat!
I suppose you also woke up naked in the desert next to a burnt circle of sand...with a sore ass.
"True story"? Prove it, dickwad. This morning I feel like being pissed at you jerkoffs. AR has saved our daughter's life, and is doing great work for many others. There's no brainwashing, no religious indoctrination at all (in fact, periodically our daughter's therapist offers to take her "team" to church...but only if they WANT to go, and to a fairly casual non-Mormon church.
They have patients/students that range from "troubled teens" with arrest records, kids with drug problems, girls who have become "cutters", kids who have suffered mental breakdowns due to trauma - I have not met one parent (and we go to "parent week" activities quarterly and make other, sometimes unnanounced, visits at other times) who just wanted to lock-up their child - and in most cases the parent/child relationship improves dramatically after the child has been there a few months.
Yes, there are rules; yes, there is security (a kid can't just run off); yes, there can be "level drops", but only for serious rulebreaking.
We also know a couple program "graduates" who we keep in contact with, and the parents have had nothing but praise for AR. There ARE things we think could be improved - in school, science labs are not available except through specialized mail-order kits, or through the local college (40-some miles away). It's worked out OK, but it would be better if they had something set up on-site. The food is pretty "institutional", but it's healthy stuff and they are bringing in more variety. And periodically the team therapist or another staff member will take a group of upper-level kids out to a restaurant as a treat.
You also all completely miss one of the key things about AR - the use of equine assisted psychotherapy. EAP has a well-established background and it is truly amazing how some of these "asphalt and sidewalk" kids develop wonderful relationships with the horses, which parallels well with human relationships. It's fascinating to see how the kids generally pick a horse as "theirs" (they all seem to gravitate to one primary horse) that has the same personality as themselves, and they quickly learn how it is to deal with themselves. The equine staff are our favorite people on the ranch, and a couple I'm sure will be lifelong friends.
The kids who really "get into" the horsemanship aspect are provided with weekend seminars in Salt Lake City or St. George in horse training, specialized care, etc...all at no fee to the parents. Our daughter has a certification now in training, which has already gotten her a 2-week job locally for her summer visit home, and may result in a permanent position while she goes to college.
Yeah, it's a load of brainwashing and mistreatment.
You naysayers are simply fools who have NO idea what you're talking about. A bunch of lemmings, just following the group.
FWIW we also know many local therapists who think highly of AR and also laugh at the negative notions. Several have visited the place as well.
But it's always entertaining discussing these things with people who have no clue. However, if ONE person wakes up and realizes the negative crap is a load of...well, crap...maybe another child can be helped.
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