I was kicked out in late 2003 about 2 months before I was supposed to graduate. I was never given a formal explaination from John, he just told me that he was no longer willing to help me. Not like he ever helped me, but it was certainly frusterating. No I never got anything back, but I didn't expect to. My entire college fund is gone, my parents had to take out a second mortgage (sp?) and now I have to work 2 jobs to get through college, being that busy is a good way to get healthy, not mms.