On 2005-12-09 13:51:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-09 11:56:00, Nihilanthic wrote:
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On 2005-12-09 11:00:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-09 10:42:00, screann wrote:
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On 2005-12-09 10:00:00, Nihilanthic wrote:
"I repeat - how the fuck does a RTC treat anything, and what DOES it treat, if anything?Time's fun when you're having flies.
--Kermit the Frog
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RTCs dont treat anything its all about the money."
Like anything else, some kids do well others dont. They are definitely not for everyone, like Bipolar etc. there are problems that kids are having that cant be solved by RTC, like some posters where saying earlier. If you talk to kids who have been thru one you get a better sense as to what they do. Some are angry and hurt that their family put them there and may gain little or no personal growth, others really excel before and after graduation.
Some people on previous posts mentioned that a child?s perspective can change as much as 5 years after graduation, so the kids who are angry initially may come around to see that the school was a benefit later on when they feel more settled with there lives and vice versa I guess. If you visit a few web sites you can see how each school differs and what they offer, most are very expensive (not for the budget minded).
Hope that helped.
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Why is it if tha someone asks a direct, simple, straight question, the only answer anyone gets except "it doesnt" is a bunch of vague bullshit that does everything but answer the question we asked?
HOW DOES IT DO ANYTHING? Whether or not the child chooses to play along or resist, how does it work? What does it do? How does it do it? Why are they kept in captivity and tortured until they go along with it?
Why is the only thing I've been able to get out of anyone simply saying that they way it works is coersing them into repeating what theyre told, doing as told, and participating in humiliating, traumatic mindgames, and punishing misbehavior or simple nonparticipation with being painfully restrained with submission holds and/or sat on, being confined to a room and/or placed in bondage, sometimes without being able to relieve themself, or being subject to extremes of hot or cold without adequate clothing, having food withheld, and being watched every second of the day, including while bathing, relieving themselves, or while they sleep to prevent them from talking to eachother or masturbating?
Do you have ANY answers or is the only thing you do throw a crossword puzzle of red herrings and dodge the question by trying to confuse everything by talking about 15 things nobody brought up? No laws, however stringent, can make the idle industrious, the thriftless provident, or the drunken sober
--Samuel Stiles
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Sorry just pointing you towards the answers you were looking for. You have to do a little work yourselves to find the answers, I have done my research, but I find people need to see for themselves. Talk to the graduates!!!!"
Ah, youre fun. Lets break this down:
1. I can tell you have a hard time communicating with people or getting them to listen to you, lots of anger.
Red herring. Youre not a liscensed therapist, so you cant make that determination. Thats also an ad-hominem attack.
2. You have to do a little work yourselves to find the answers, I have done my research, but I find people need to see for themselves.
I have checked. I have researched. Ive created a 40+ page thread asking about this. What I have found is they do not do therapy, instead the people who support it dodge the question or attack the people asking the questions while what really goes on is little more than a regime of control and regression via humiliation and unpleasantness through being watched every second of every day, mind games in the form of raps, seminars, or some other sort of confrontational bullshit, and severe "structure" (more like arbirtrary bullshit to keep you on your toes) that is met with swift, extreme punishment if you break any of those rules which usually consists of painful restraint in the form of submission holds, being locked in isolation, losing food, etc.
So, I do have the answer, I just like to ask it to people who do everything they can to avoid actually addressing it. I have seen the answers for myself.
3. Talk to the graduates!!!!
Ive talked to several. They all say its bullshit in various different ways, ranging from being merely ineffective to utterly abusive.
Is that ALL you have?
Can ANYONE answer the question without trying to dodge, give me the catch of the day in red herring form or attack me... or muddle and confuse everything by answering 15 questions nobody asked?
:rofl: you're pathetic.
Ardent advocates of prohibition were obsessed by a zeal that bordered on fanaticism. They supported politicians who voted to outlaw liquor, no matter how much of it they privately consumed, and spurned politicians who voted against prohibition, no matter how sober they were personally.
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