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Jupiter Survivor:
I was not referring to the death camps and gas chambers.  I was referring to the Nazi's experiments, in which they did experiments (bizarre experiments) to prisoners.  Death I feel would have been a better option, a relief from the constant torture.  I don't know about anyone else, but I was suicidal a few times during my SEED stay. I wanted death, a relief and in my mind an answer.

I have been abused, physically and emotionally, and all I can say is, bruises heal.
I realize this may be different for others.

When you were young as I was, to have all of the staff, oldcomers, parents ,etc constantly telling you what a worthless piece  of crap you are (people who have no clue about who you really are), you start telling it to yourself.  You no longer need anyone to do it for you.  Add to that the fact that I never got it, never really could make myself think like them.  If I tried it was a lie, therefore reinforcing the fact I was seriously screwed up.  Pretty screwed up considering we  suppose to think for ourselves.

I still say I was one of Art's sacrificial lamb.  His knowledge on psychology was like Freud on crack.......  

The Nazi's wanted complete control, absolute obedience and unchallenged loyalty ..... anyone else see a connection to the SEED?

Can you imagine what would have happened IF he was able to succeed?  Make the world one big happy (S&M) family?

Anonymous:
My god fraline you are still very very upset.

NOT12NOW:
What strikes me is that all the seed sayings/diagnoses were circular--Your heads out of wak, because you think your shit don't stink, because you got into your head, because you don't care about anyone but yourself, because your heads out of wak.

They just came up with a lot of ways to say not complying but I, as a young seedling, believed each catch phrase described a distinctly different mistake.  They were the tools I had to keep myself in line so they didn't toss me back in line so I tried to understand and use them everyday.  I am sure at the time I could have plausibly defined each of these saying as distinctly different from each other.  Now it's clear, to me that they basically all meant the same thing with just subtle shadings to make us feel guilty about different parts of ourselves, for instance Sexy Sadie degraded or sexual feelings while getting into your head debased the power of our minds. I can't believe I honesty tried to use this dribble.  I actually thought they were tools to self-improvement.

Cleveland, I don't remember the phrase going bananas.  When was that used? If you expressed a worry about outside things (family, school) or confusion about seed doctrines? In what situation would they say you were going bananas instead of say, getting into your head?

Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2005-11-22 04:31:00, Jupiter Survivor wrote:

The Nazi's wanted complete control, absolute obedience and unchallenged loyalty ..... anyone
else see a connection to the SEED?

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Yes! Not only are there many parallels in the 'logic' of it all, but there seem to be direct connections. You think Art was just talking out his ass when he called Group "the best CIA in the world" when he talked about the snitch network that existed wherever two or more Seedlings were?

Maybe so, but if we're to believe the objective facts that some people are telling, Art had a fairly impressive collection of Nazi and psyche litterature. And, in closed company (just like the Clams who are "ready" to know the "truth" about the thetans and space aliens) he held forth pretty freely on how Hitler had the right idea, only he should have targeted druggies not Jews.


--- Quote ---Can you imagine what would have happened IF he was able to succeed? Make the world one big happy (S&M) family?

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Ya' know, for years, I thought I was just imagining things. But just keep an eye out (or some search agents like Google Alerts) for mentions in the media about the people directly involved in this experiment way back when. What's Bobby DuPont doing? He's known in policy circles as "The king of Piss". And, even though they deny all connections between the Seed and Straight, he was the rich uncle inside the beltway who kicked down those big bags of dollars for Seed expansion. Then he turns up, reliably, as an expert wittness for Straight damned near every time they got sued.

What are the Semblers doing? What about Mel Riddile and Bill Oliver and George Ross, Dr. Richard Schwartz, Donald Ian MacDonald, Carlton Turner, etc. All of these people, except for Turner, were Straight execs.

Kids ta' day have the Program Lite in school. Check this shit out:
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~sspc/decal.html

When I was a little kid, teenagers used to hang out under the pier in Pompano on weekend and summer evenings. They'd play guitars, build campfires, tell stories, have fun, etc. I'm sure there were some drugs making the rounds and, of course, some romance and, I guess, even a fight once in awhile. But that's what teenagers used to do.

Now? They don't DARE! We, as a nation and society, have been brought along slowly and carefully to accept the suspension of our right freely and peacably to assemble. Wherever a half dozen kids may be seen together w/o a DARE officer to supervise, they're subject to hassles and questions and veiled threats. They no longer believe, if they ever did, that they have a right to just be in public w/o being suspect.

And this is what happens to kids ta' day when they show up to a fully licensed, insured professional show that doesn't support the party line:
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Dance_party ... _Utah,_USA

Imagine if? No need. Just look around.
Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... miamithem' target='_new'>H. G. Wells
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cajun75:
Dear All,

We have all been conditioned and brain washed in some degree or another. Whether it is by government run schools and the propaganda they teach, the seed and the peer pressure they use, churches, parents, everywhere. If you want to know how we have really been lied to, just learn about Jekyl Island and how our whole monetary system has been created and about the Federal Reserve. We are still living in a free country but times are changing with the patriot act. If you want to leave the country, they are now about to create passports with micro chips in them. It is all about control. I was tought that I (me) is my job, status in life, money, all about ego. What nonsense. What matters to me is kindness, compassion and love. I study and learn to know myself. I live in the present and not the past or the future. Through self realization I am trying to break the conditionings and brain washing that I have been subjected to my whole life.

Kind Regards,

Chuck

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