Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
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RobertBruce:
The five I listed are simply off the top of my head there are many others and you know this.
The point still remains though how is HLA claims to treat homosexuality yet a large number (or any number) of the employees are themselves gay.
Namley the owner.
SHH:
Once again Robert, they dont "claim to treat homosexuality" as a disorder to be fixed. They treat it as an issue that should be discussed within the realm of accepting who you are and dealing with coming out issues and guilt and other things having to do with all that. It might have listed that somewhere as a topic to be dealt with therapeutically but thats not the same thing as fixing it.
RobertBruce:
--- Quote ---On 2005-12-13 00:58:00, SHH wrote:
"Once again Robert, they dont "claim to treat homosexuality" as a disorder to be fixed. They treat it as an issue that should be discussed within the realm of accepting who you are and dealing with coming out issues and guilt and other things having to do with all that. It might have listed that somewhere as a topic to be dealt with therapeutically but thats not the same thing as fixing it. "
--- End quote ---
Oh but they did didnt they? Further you have failed to address the fact that they often tried to make children believe they were gay even if they were not or force the ones who were gay out of the closet before they were ready. Also here we have an example of a student who was sent there to be cured of gayness.
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 1&start=80
If HLA doesnt treat homosexuality why would they accept him?
Also again since they did claim to treat it how do they rationalize it with a gay owner and many many gay employees?
Troll Control:
Posted by a physician in another thread...
"My experience with Hidden Lake Academy was also distressing.
In my opinion, and the opinions of the six other physicians in my practice who followed my HLA misadventure with me, HLA is a predator whose prey is the horrified parents of disturbed teens. It is an institution of opportunity, bringing home its bottom line at the expense of the desperate, frazzled families it exploits.
By the time most parents are introduced to HLA, they've already been through a costly and demoralizing gauntlet of police stations, court appearances, counselor visits, psychiatric evaluations...even hospital visits.
To say they are desperate is an understatement. They are trying to keep their families from self-destructing. In most cases, the only option is turning the child out onto the streets: most insurance policies won't cover mental health care, and even if a family is lucky enough to have good coverage, it is limited to short, individual events. Deeply needed inpatient care is rarely an option for most of these families.
So even considering a modality such as a therapeutic boarding school is a true extravagance. Actually sending the student may mean mortgaging a home, selling it, or even bancruptcy.
Enter Hidden Lake and its ilk.
I was asked by the parents of a young teen to evaluate HLA by its Web site. What stood out to me even more than the philosophy that medical therapy was discouraged were the many typographical errors and careless mistakes on nearly every page of the site. While my own writing is not perfect, I am not registered as a boarding school, responsible for the education of children, presumably overflowing with teachers more than capable of proofreading the very materials provided to the public for the purpose of attracting business.
When I brought my concerns to the attention to the school, they were received with, well, less than warm gratitude. My comments to HLA were meant to be constructive. I was gracious and self-effacing in my original letter because the last thing I wanted was to offend the school. Clearly such niceties were a waste of effort.
Given that the parents are expected to pay upwards of seven thousand dollars per month for the privilege of sending their child to a therapeutic boarding school, I actually expected a minimum of civility. None was evident.
My credentials were questioned?this from an institution whose methods are questionable, at best, from a medical (and psychiatric, I might add) point of view.
Fast forward a few months...and imagine how surprised I was to come across the story of the parent in the previous posts. Am I shocked HLA will not send the child's transcripts? Nope. They demonstrated their pettiness, immaturity, and curious vindictiveness to me, a peer and potential referral base a long time ago. Was I surprised that personal belongings, including necessary daily medications, were sent COD?by ground? Actually, yes.
Not only did that shock me, it caused me to pick up the phone and discuss this gross mismanagement of a patient's medications with a malpractice attorney, who recommends HLA check to be sure their insurance premiums are paid.
To the parent: my suggestion is that you alert your attorney to your experience. Gather all proof of your allegations, including the boxes the personal effects were sent in, the COD receipt(s), the condition of any damaged items, a list of missing items, if any, and proof of payments made to HLA. Regardless of any contract signed (as a previous Anonymous poster cryptically stated), a minimum level of responsibility to the patient's health is required by ANY institution. That minimum includes making reasonable arrangements for the patient to have access to their medications. COD shipping by ground is not, by any standard, "reasonable."
So guess what, parent? You may be getting a sizeable percentage of the "investment" HLA coerced you to pay them right back into your pocket.
I'll be cheering for you from this sideline."
UNBIASED OUTSIDE OPINION BY MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL SAYS HLA IS "PREDATOR" VICTIMIZING PARENTS AND CHILDREN. WAKE UP, PEOPLE. :skull:
WestSideStud2430:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-13 14:46:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"think what you wish... i'll know what i know...you can believe that Dr. Len sent me on here to "breach" your comments, but it doesn't affect how i see things. HLA does good for many people, whether or not they realize it... I for one, look up to Dr. Len, and think that he is only giving desperate parents an alternitive."
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You went there!!!! Did you going to HLA cause you to start smoking crack!?!?!?!? Why the hell else would you make such an ignorant and stupid comment>?
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