Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Mission Mountain School
yet another group to join
katfish:
I agree, I think the full scope of the problem and it's history needs to be addressed, point well taken.[ This Message was edited by: katfish on 2005-10-23 22:33 ]
katfish:
Antigen, could you give me a summary of what Karen's testimony say if you have a moment, as I can only suppose you have read the testimony and I'm swamped with work at the moment so I will not get a chance to look it over until later on this week.
LGA?
thanks- kat[ This Message was edited by: katfish on 2005-10-23 22:32 ]
Anonymous:
Kat, I just sent it to you in an email.
Kit
Anonymous:
Here's my take on the situation.
There's room for us all. The kids need us all.
There are many of you, like Ginger, who were in Straight and who know the history of the industry well. Many who attended programs more recently, like since the 90's, don't know what you know. "Newbies" are trying to get up to speed.
I believe that one of the most important things that needs to happen is that the word needs to get out to the public, to the mental health industry, to the legal industry, and especially to parents, that these programs exist and what goes on and has gone on.
People can only take in and process so much information so we have to find a way to give them the information in a very concise way. It really doesn't take too much, actually.
Over the past year or so I have spread the word about the industry in my community. Everyone, and I mean everyone, who I have spoken to had no idea this was happening. That's frightening. It proves to me that what we have done so far has not been enough and that we have a long way to go. The general public needs to know!
I think that what Alison Pinto & the other mental health professionals, Bazelon, and the others are doing is excellent. I think anything that will expose the industry is a great start. I believe that as A START continues their work more and more mental health professionals will be informed, more legal professionals, and that is a very, very good start.
As you are all aware, judges court-appoint kids to these programs and therapists recommend them to parents. I think most of them have no idea what is truly going on and they need to be informed. I don't think they realize the fate of the child. I do know that a judge once court ordered a child to be sent to Tranquility Bay. Once the judge was made aware of abuse allegations, he ordered the child be returned to this country.
Let's face it. In order for this to be exposed we need help. We should welcome those who have a passion for helping rather than pick them apart, piece by piece. They are getting involved because they see the injustice of what is going on. And we need to be understanding that people getting on board to help are not going to know the full history of this industry. They were not in a program, they did not attend Straight in the 70's. But that doesn't mean they are not going to be effective. Let's give them a chance.
I have a suggestion. Those of you who know the history, how about putting together a timeline for those who are just coming on board. I am aware of how complex this is but in order to help on this level it needs to be broken down in a manner that will be easy to read and understand. It's just an idea.
I also understand where many of you are coming from and your fear of our government getting involved. Our government, so far, has done little to help the kids. Again, some of you know more of the history.
But I think it's important to be open-minded and to see what others are trying to do and why. Right now we have virtually no regulations, right now there are not many laws to protect the kids. Right now they can get away with abusing kids inside and outside of this country. Right now it's nearly impossible to help kids in other countries.
I think that, whether we like it or not, we need the help of the government. We need more people like Congressman Miller who are willing to work hard to pass a bill that would help protect the kids. There are some very positive things in his proposed bill that would at least be a start to some protection for the kids. Right now we have none to speak of.
Hopefully we can all find a way to work together. I really think it's the only way that we will see any positive change. ::rocker::
Anonymous:
Critical mass has been building for the past 3 decades, what you are seeing now has taken that long to reach the mainstream and we are still a long way from resolving the problem.
In order for real and meaningful change to occur, we must start at the beginning and peel back the layers.
All this attention on one program (WWASPS) has helped broaden awareness but at the same time actually worked to BOOST the enrollment numbers of one of the most controversial organizations.
Doesn't anyone care to know HOW and WHY that is even possible?
Because parents aren't "getting it"?
WRONG! Parents do get it and the fact is, for the most part, they like what they see.
TOUGHLOVE SELLS.
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