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Press Briefing in DC
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---But I believe what is being asked here, is not necessarily federal oversight, but money to go to individual states so that they may have the resources to "police" these programs themselves.
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Yeah, I am sure Utah will take its "policing" duties very seriously. :roll:
Anonymous:
***I believe what is being asked here, is not necessarily federal oversight, but money to go to individual states so that they may have the resources to "police" these programs themselves... I understand there are many ways that things could go sour very quickly, but what other option do we really have? I mean we sit here talking about these things until we're blue... But what are we aiming for? If we aren't aiming for oversight of some sort (most likely it would have to be sponsored by a state or feds) then what are we trying to do? With the regulation comes laws... It's those "rules" that are going to need to be scrutinized... but I believe looking for oversight is really the only first step...
Playing Devil's Advocate for a moment, the states that currently have regulations in place are not doing such a good job enforcing the rules that already exist, according to the Inspector General.
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 87&forum=9
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=0#24989
All states have an ICPC office, which has the potential to stop many out-of-state placements, but are not enforcing that federal law. Why?
There are thousands of kids in programs who were placed in violation. Who will require each state to enforce and each program to comply?
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=0#55532
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=0#51700
What is the solution to this issue? Who is going to provide oversight for Licensing, ICPC Offices, Attorney General, etal, to ensure they are doing their jobs?
To quote Ken Stettler (Utah Licensing), "we're reactive, not proactive". Each state with regulations for childcaring institutions will define which facilities require a license to operate. When a program side-steps regs by stating they are a boarding school, I feel it's the state's job to require the facility to provide documentation that would prove they are not housing teens 24/7/365 and providing 'therapy'. Do they care? Apparently not. They take the program's word for it until there is a tragedy. Then they present themselves to the public as being ignorant and/or powerless to require the facility to come under their scrutiny.
There are so many agencies along the the way that could do more to protect teens from the industry. They don't. Why? And how do you (ASTART) see that changing?
More money to states? Really? How will that money be used?
States would have an abundance of operating funds if they enforced regulations and fined the maverick programs for operating without a license. Some stating fines as high as $500 per day.
What's the 'new' consequence going to be for states that aren't doing their job? How will anyone 'force' these folks to do the right thing?
katfish:
What do you all suggest be done?
Anonymous:
Good question, Kat. What the hell is the answer? What can we all do to help the kids who are locked up in hell-holes as we speak? They're in there wishing we were out here doing something to help them. It's our responsiblity to figure out what the hell it is that we can do to help them. Please, if anyone has suggestions, please share them here. As Ginger pointed out, many of us have good hearts and our intentions are good. We want and need to do something to help. We want to do what will be most effective. We all need to put our heads together to figure out what we can do.
I know many of you are not in favor of the proposed legislation, that you aren't in support of what Alison Pinto is doing. So, if that's the case, what do you suggest? I thought that at least having some legislation in place would be better than what we have now.
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