it was child abuse pure and simple. MikeS, (and all others that remember straight fondly)I know, if you look back on what really went on in there to you and all of us, you will agree. Your life is good cause of what you made of it. I don't think straight had anything to do w/it. I graduated after approx 15 months, my life is pretty darn good. As I tell my parents when they used to say "look what you have done because of straight" And to that I replied "look what I have done in SPITE OF STRAIGHT" I think that is the more honest answer. MikeS and every one else, if you can't remember straight honestly, I will remind you. See, we try and remember the good things in life, cause sometimes the bad is so bad that it really hurts to think about. For many years (for me it was over 20), I tried to look at straight w/rose colored glasses. The glasses fell off about 1.5 years ago when I found thestraights.com Take a look and if you still think straight is great, then I believe you need some serious therapy. MikeS, I certainly hope you don't treat your teenagers the way we were treated in Straight. tough love = child abuse.