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RobertBruce:
" I have to go to work shortly but let me see if I can answer some of your twists to my statements and your questions in a few minutes."

What was twisted around?

"1) It is very easy to look up staff credentials. Go to their website and click on STAFF. It lists their degrees, etc."

That is not a backround check, again how we do these ones arent fooling Buchi like the others did.

"3) I only stated what I found on websites about licensing and accrediation because everybody keeps on going on and on about how HLA is unlicensed and in fact its not even a requirement that they be licensed. So who do you fault there? The state of Georgia? Maybe thats where you need to petition the state reps. to change their requirements. And the slur against Georgia whoever posted that was ridiculous. Guess they arent familiar with the state. "

HLA is unlicensed weve gone over this time and again. HLA is not licesened as a theraputic boarding school when in fact they should be. Are you going to try and argue that they arent a theraputic boarding school?

I would love to hear that argument.


"4) I know for a fact that Dysfunction is full of shit about what I look like because he described me in a previous post awhile back totally inaccurately. He described me as mexican looking and ugly and overweight when in fact I am very fair skinned, with green eyes and look more italian than anything else. I am not mexican either. And I am not overweight and wasnt overweight then either. So, again, Steve is full of shit. "

Susie no one cares. You keep going on about this point that does not matter. The way you portray yourself on here is how you are percieved, thus you are a bullfrog.

"5) My intelligence has been thrown into this mess more than once. When have I ever talked about your intelligence or looks or morals Robert? Low blow, but considering the source, certainly not surprising. "

Again you have shown your own level of intelligence. You make stupid arguments, you evade topics you dont like, you call us liars and then when we do the same to you, you claim youre being attacked, you get painted into a corner and throw a pity party for yourself and try to manipulate the situation, and you are unwilling to back up any of your own statements.

How do you expect us to percieve you?

"6) Again, I have spoken to an attorney (NOT Marty) I told you I havent talked to him in 5 years. You don't have a case at all Robert. What I posted is not illegal, and was not obtained from any file. It came from my memory because I always remember people I meet who have my son's name. Its not a common name. There was also a girl named Devon that I met a few times. Whether or not the other kid named Devon remembers me or not is a moot point. My memory is not a confidential file either so a judge would laugh like hell at your presumption of what you just stated. "

Okay let me give you an idea of how your theory would hold up in a court of law.

Attorney: Devin at what point did you meet Mrs. Gray?

Devin: Ive never met her before today, while at HLA I didnt even know Bill was married.

Judge: Wait youre saying that you had never spoken to her while at HLA?

Devin: Thats correct your honor.

Judge: Well Mrs. Gray can you prove that youve met the boy prior to today? If not youll have to provide some other way of showing how you got his information.

Mrs. Gray:.....

Marty: Say something Susie.

Mrs. Gray: LMAO I can't be here right now. I have to take care of TWO disabled family members! DUH! Do you really think HLA would be accredited by the Georgia Southern Schools Association.

Judge: Answer the quesition mam'm your pratteling has nothing to do with the question.

Mrs. Gray: Stop telling half-truthas and exagerating! You havent been there in years, it's different now.

Judge: Baliffs restrain her.

And that about sums it up. Do you see the problem now? All Devin has to say is he never met you, and your explination is shot to hell. Espically since you cant prove you two ever really met, the only other way you would have gotten his information is from the student files which you had access to.

"7) Yes I did progress reports and report cards, and I copied and mailed them. However, at that point I gave them to another lady in the office, I believe maybe it could have been Anne Strader, and she or another person put them in the main files. I did not have access to them to get any personal information. And I only did that for 10 months, and not during the time that kid Devon was at the school. I met him after I quit working parttime there. "

How do you know? You claimed he was only there for three months, yet according to him that is not the case at all. So how do you know you are correct on the dates? You dont know because you never met the kid, he says so himself. You cant back out of this Susie.

"And one more thing before I have to log off. Dr. Buccellato didn't need this school to make money from . He was doing just fine with his other school and private practice and the other businesses and things he was involved with. He did this because he felt he could better serve kids instead of sending them off to other schools. He designed a school that is part wilderness, (or was until Ridge Creek), part boarding school and part therapeutic. This particular school was designed with different purposes so to call it one thing or another exclusively is kind of difficult. You assume the man is without any morals and since I knew him for over 7 years, and you only knew him for a few months or a year or so, I do believe I know the man a little better than you."

Youve known him longer than me yes, better no. You forget I never succombed to the same brainwashing techniques that you did. His only goal has ever been to steal has much money as possible with as little overhead as he can get away with. Also you claim that because in your mind HLA is such a mixture of different approaches you cant call it one thing over another. If thats the case why then does HLA tell the state its a traditional boarding school?

Get back to me on that one Susie.

Also I love how you still cant provide a real basis for why you randomly chose that student to believe was me. Afterall there had to be some connection in your mind. Lets hear it.

RobertBruce:
Whoops forgot to shoot down this one.

"2) You do assume way more than you know Robert. first of all I never slept around with a vagrant and Bill didnt divorce me or kick me out. It was a mutual decision by the two of us. Why we got divorced is none of your business but you can be assured that it was for none of your sick reasons. "

Who assumed anything Mrs. Gray? I told you I neither knew nor cared why you got divorced. I told you if I had to guess it would be that you slept with a vagrant and fatass kicked you out. But thats just a guess, and one designed to goad you, nothing more.

SHH Anon Classics:
Ok heres my list of replies to your misleading answers:

1) You made the statement about me sleeping around and bill kicking me out and I responded that you assume alot. Any of those comments have what do to with the topic at hand??? Nothing. Why do you insist on going there then?

2) You said looking up the staff wasnt a background check. I never said it was. I said you could go to their website and look up what degrees they had, etc. And by the way both background checks and random drug testing are performed by the school, and were before I left also.

3)I have read many many websites about what Georgia requires and doesnt require, and I do not see anything that would suggest that the school is operating illegally based on what I have read or what I know. Therefore your statement that they operate illegally doesnt hold water. In addition, lawmakers are well aware of the school's status as well as the local county and board of education and not a single one has come forward to suggest that the school should be shut down. So what does that tell you Mr. Bruce? Tells me its operating legally.

4) You are right my appearance has nothing to do with the topic as hand, however, my statement about Steve (dysfunction ) not knowing about what I look like was to point out that ther are many things that Steve would like to have you think he knows, but in fact, is blowing quite a bit of smoke. That is my point in that. I can guess he got most of his supposed info not from his own experiences but from the "pillow talks" he had with the female staff in the less than one year he worked there. So, that in itself is hearsay is it not?

5)There is no pity party for myself. I have no pity for anybody on this board except you. My point in that statement was to bring up the fact that while I do not make it personal, you do.

6) Regarding the name of the student issue, just because the kid doesnt remember me has no weight whatsoever in a court of law. I remembered him, I never said we were "formally" introduced. He might not have known who I was when we met. It doesnt matter though, because I dont have to prove what I remember from memory. Its my memory, period. Its sort of a he said she said situation and once again, I have done nothing illegal whatsoever. I didnt gain his name from any file at all. I remembered it because that is my son's name (as I keep saying) and that is why it stuck in my mind. YOu keep asking me this and I keep telling you, I guess it just won't sink in.

7) I never claimed that the kid was there 3 months, I made up a number of months as a guess because I didnt think he was at the school that long from what I remembered.

:cool:you don't know what Dr. B's goals are. If it was money why did he shell out a ton of his OWN money to start the school? why did he tear down the old bldgs and build new bldgs in their place that were more comfortable and had prettier views and spaces if he didn't care about the students? NOne of that is cheap Mr. Bruce. I don't believe the school turned a profit for the first 5 or 6 yrs it existed. If his only goal was to make money I am sure there are much cheaper and easier ways to do it.

I think that is all the responses, but if I missed one I AM SURE you will point it out.

RobertBruce:
"1) You made the statement about me sleeping around and bill kicking me out and I responded that you assume alot. Any of those comments have what do to with the topic at hand??? Nothing. Why do you insist on going there then? "

I dont you keep bringing it up, Im glad the issue is dropped now so we can focus on the more important illegal aspects of HLA. As you are not that important.

"2) You said looking up the staff wasnt a background check. I never said it was. I said you could go to their website and look up what degrees they had, etc. And by the way both background checks and random drug testing are performed by the school, and were before I left also. "

If thats the case then why would Buchi as you claim have ever been fooled by staff members with bogus degrees and people who routinley abused children both physicaly and sexually.


"3)I have read many many websites about what Georgia requires and doesnt require, and I do not see anything that would suggest that the school is operating illegally based on what I have read or what I know. Therefore your statement that they operate illegally doesnt hold water. In addition, lawmakers are well aware of the school's status as well as the local county and board of education and not a single one has come forward to suggest that the school should be shut down. So what does that tell you Mr. Bruce? Tells me its operating legally. "

Susie we could fill a library with the things you dont know.

Just give me a simple yes or no answer. Is HLA a theraputic boarding school?

If it is why isnt it licesned as one?

If its not what is it and why is therapy such a major part of not just addmission but day to day life at the school?

Lets see if you cant answer that simple question.

I doubt it.

Anonymous:
Susie,
Is tuition to HLA still being paid by insurance companies?
Are parents still taking tax write-offs for visits to see their 'disabled' child?

Might insurance companies feel a bit ripped off if they knew they were paying for tuition to a private boarding school?
How would the IRS feel about parents writing off expenses related to visits to their kid's private boarding school?

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