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Dear Art,
Thom:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-05 08:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
"James, the brother of Jesus, told me to post this in the wrong thread. LIAR.
Dear Art,
Thanks for convincing my parents physchologists were all "full of shit" and warehousing me for all that time while people poked at me and screamed in my face and denied me basic human dignity like toilet privelidges. It really helped me get in touch with other people living inside my brain and identify the voices.
I am now medicated and institutionalized, but I recite the 3 signs to my invisible friend every day, then we go seven stepping around the courtyard with Jesus and Hitler.
Your the best!
And thanks to Mussolini for showing me the right thread!
"
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...is he there too?
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-05 11:39:00, marshall wrote:
As long as your primary religion was the Seed, you could embrace any other faith.
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Yeah, that's pretty much how I remember it too. I did thoroughly enjoy that song that I quoted above. It was one of those things that made my mom's head cock to the side like a confused puppy. Sort of like Capt. James T. Kirk's method of destroying robots by speaking contradictions to them.
But it wasn't much different in Straight, either. I always thought the CC influence came from the local communities that made up Group. First there was St. Pete, then Sarasota, then Cincinatti, then Orlando and Atlanta. But Melvin and Betty Sembler are not Christian. They're Jewish. So I don't think it was their idea. I think they just didn't really care much one way or the other so long as, as you note, the Program was the primary religion.
For more than a hundred years much complaint has been made of the unmethodical way in which schools are conducted...with what result? Schools remain exactly as they were.
--Comenius,1632
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Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-05 11:41:00, Thom wrote:
I think Art can handle it.
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Oh yeah! That Art, he was always so humble and open to criticism and such. I doubt seriously that his remaining followers would dare read to him any of that criticism. Wouldn't do anyone any good anyway. It's not asif he needs to hear it and change his ways. The man is old and ill and no danger to anyone anymore.
But, vindictive and mean as it may be, I would still love to be a fly on the wall if you ever do decide to pay him a visit and tell him how much you admire his living his life for God.
An Animated Cartoon Theology:
1. People are animals.
2. The body is mortal and subject to incredible pain.
3. Life is antagonistic to the living.
4. The flesh can be sawed, crushed, frozen, stretched, burned, bombed, and plucked for music.
5. The dumb are abused by the smart and the smart destroyed by their own cunning.
6. The small are tortured by the large and the large destroyed by their own momentum.
7. We are able to walk on air, but only as long as our illusion supports us.
-- E. L. Doctorow "The Book of Daniel"
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GregFL:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-05 11:39:00, marshall wrote:
I've wondered about the religious angle of the Straight / Seed split too, since Straight became a very conservative christian group from what I've read. "
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Not really true. Some of the later offshoots became religious in nature but still used the exact same techniques, but straight continued along the same religious path as the Seed.
Remember that straight was run by a Jewish guy..
Thom:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-05 10:43:00, GregFL wrote:
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On 2005-10-05 10:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"He's not half Jewish. "
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But was he an atheist? I seem to remember him being one, but I am not sure.
Of course, I know he believed in a higher power, but I always thought he felt that he was it.
:grin:
"
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I heard he got an Honorary Doctorate in Atheism from The Atheism Institute of Metropolitan Fort Lauderdale, Florida University College
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