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Dear Art,
GregFL:
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"He's not half Jewish. "
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But was he an atheist? I seem to remember him being one, but I am not sure.
Of course, I know he believed in a higher power, but I always thought he felt that he was it.
:grin:
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-05 08:51:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Antigen,
Please, do you have any idea how often you offend people?"
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Yes, but mostly only brainwashed people.
I remain, in the service of mankind, doing my part to piss off the Religious Reich. :nworthy:
The world is so exquisite, with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's no good evidence. Far better, it seems to me, to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.
--Carl Sagan
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Antigen:
ARTIST: George and Ira Gershwin
TITLE: It Ain't Necessarily So
Lyrics and Chords
[Porgy and Bess]
It ain't necessarily so
It ain't necessarily so
De things dat yo' liable to read in de Bible
It ain't necessarily so
Li'l David was small but oh my
Li'l David was small but oh my
He fought big Goliath who lay down and dieth
Li'l David was small but oh my
Oh Jonah he lived in de whale
Oh Jonah he lived in de whale
For he made his home in dat fish's abdomen
Oh Jonah he lived in de whale
Li'l Moses was found in a stream
Li'l Moses was found in a stream
He floated on water 'til ole Pharaoh's daughter
She fished him she says from that stream
It ain't necessarily so
It ain't necessarily so
Dey tell all you chillun de debble's a villain
But 'taint necessarily so
To get into Hebben don' snap for a sebben
Live clean, don' have no fault
Oh I takes dat gospel whenever it's pos'ble
But wid a grain of salt
Methus'lah lived nine hundred years
Methus'lah lived nine hundred years
But who calls dat livin' when no gal'll give in
To no man what's nine hundred years
I'm preachin' dis sermon to show
It ain't nessa, ain't nessa
Ain't nessa, ain't nessa
It ain't necessarily so
I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism.
--Albert Einstein, German-born American physicist
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marshall:
I specifically recall that Art did not believe that Jesus was the son of god or divine in any sense. He often spoke about this in the group. He used to say that Jesus was a great rabbi, but that's all. As to whether he was an atheist, I have no idea. I've wondered about the religious angle of the Straight / Seed split too, since Straight became a very conservative christian group from what I've read. I also remember born-again oldtimers coming to group and relating about finding Jesus. If Art happened to be present, he would take pains to point out that this wasn't necessary to get straight or stay straight and was just their personal choice. I give him credit for being much more tolerant of religious diversity than groups like Straight and some of the other later off-shoots. As long as your primary religion was the Seed, you could embrace any other faith.
Thom:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-05 08:47:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2005-10-04 21:55:00, Thom wrote:
I do recognise you as a fellow human being, living out God's will for your life to the best of your ability, and I thank you for your willingness to do so.
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:rofl: Thom, accusing Art of living out God's will is like wishing the Program on me. Are you even vaguely aware of how often and lightly you offend people?
Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.
--Isaac Asimov, Russian-born American author
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Yes, Ginger, I am vaguely aware of how often and lightly I offend people. I think Art can handle it. People have hurled harsher comments at him.
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