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Dear Art,
GregFL:
"anon", why don't you just use your handle? You know Ginger and I know who you are, so who are you trying to hide your tirades against her from?
Anonymous:
Art was not an atheist but I would not qualify him as a Christian or a Jew in the traditional sense. I know through talks he had in the group that he was half Jewish half Catholic by birth. Did not practice any religion as I can recall, Art always spoke of the importance of spirituality and emphasized the difference between that and religion.
He always said you pick your own higher power and perceive the higher power in the way you see fit this, this used to piss off the parents that wanted a more religious based program along with some of religious clerics who viewed his ideas as borderline heresy .
Come to think of it this might have been the origin that started the basic rift between the Seed parents that broke away and started the program ?Straight?. Just a theory on my part.
Anonymous:
He's not half Jewish.
Anonymous:
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Sorry my mistake
GregFL:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-05 10:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
" Art was not an atheist but I would not qualify him as a Christian or a Jew in the traditional sense. I know through talks he had in the group that he was half Jewish half Catholic by birth. Did not practice any religion as I can recall, Art always spoke of the importance of spirituality and emphasized the difference between that and religion.
He always said you pick your own higher power and perceive the higher power in the way you see fit this, this used to piss off the parents that wanted a more religious based program along with some of religious clerics who viewed his ideas as borderline heresy .
Come to think of it this might have been the origin that started the basic rift between the Seed parents that broke away and started the program ?Straight?. Just a theory on my part.
"
--- End quote ---
No, Straight had a similar philosophy. In fact, the philosophy wasn't just similar, it was identical.
To take it a step further, there really was no "rift" of any significance. What happened was the Seed packet up and left St Pete, and the cult-less parents tried to duplicate it for the benefit of the community and "improve" some of the things slightly.
There was a rift between the parents that started Straight, mainly because they were practicing the very same techniques the Seed did, such as forced hair cuts and the like. This caused a bunch of early straight parents to resign in disquist because the promise was a seed like program new and improved, not an exact clone of the seed, which is what they got.
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