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Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-10-09 15:00:00, Jupiter Survivor wrote:

"" I really don't find that humorous Jupiter.

I was there in 1972 when he got his honorary doctorate from Ft. Lauderdale Univ. along with a few others also receiving honorary docs in different categories. Yes he was in cap & gown. "



You're joking, right?  You realize it's not a REAL doctorate Ft.Lauderdale, don't you?  Art's so called diploma is nothing more then Monopoly money.  

I thought comparing Tom's expertise in psychiatry and  Art's in drug rehabilitation is a pretty accurate. "

--- End quote ---


yes, but the question has remained unanswered. Was the institution a diploma mill, Ie, were they accredited to issue doctorates of any manner.

So far the evidence sways against the likelyhood that this universtity, art institute or whatever could ever issue a doctorate. That is the unanswered question, we all know he had it, and we all know the press called him out for it and called the place a diploma mill.

Anonymous:
Can anyone find the articule where it states that it was a diploma mill?

GregFL:
I have it in my office, but I am in South America right now.

When I get home I will post the reference. I believe it was during one of Arts rants in the press about how pyschiatrists can´t do shit, and then they pointed out his diploma was from a diploma mill that had been shut down by the state of florida.

We still don´t have anything approaching confirmation or denial of this press tidbit, but I think probably the source that awarded him the honorary doctorate had no authority to award any doctorate at all, which is highly suspect.

It would be like me declaring someone an honorary accountant.  

Under whose authority?


Whatever the case, I would like to put the doubt to rest about whether or not this was a diploma mill or not.

Something I have noticed during this fiasco, a long time ago some questionable schools existed that were bought up by more reputable schools. As an example, once upon a time the Art Institute had NO accredidation whatsoever. Today, the predecessor corporation issues accredited batchelor degrees.

That still leaves the question as posed by the press account...

Who has the real answer devoid of emotional responses and defensive posture for Art?

GregFL:
Okay, I am back, and here is the quote and the reference. The reference being the last line, but I included more text because it is just so damn reminicent of a early 70s Art Barker.

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"Art Barker, Who Wears his bangs cut into a "V" brow that dips almost between his eyebrows, runs his controversial empire from behind a massive, curved desk in his Seed Headquarters outside of Fort Lauderale.  He smokes Constantly, sipping coffee between drags, and talks in a rapid New York accent about the evils of drugs.

The office is dark. His windows have been walled against gunshots he claims come from his enemies who are out there in two varieties beyond the 10-foot-high chain link fence, the guards and the high-intensity anti-crime lamps that surround his sprawling cement stronghold.

"they are all either druggies or they are fools", he once said of his critics. Later he softened the view to include the growing percentage of americans who suffer from mental illness.  But Barker saves his special venom for psychiatrists like Dr. Raymond Killinger, who has been openly critical of his program.

Killinger, wo works in Fort Lauderale and has never been allowed into the Seed  says the he and his colleagues have treated "an increasing number" of young people who emerge from the seed only to enter a psychiatric hospital.  Some have nervous breakdowns.  A few, says Killinger, have tried to commit suicicce because of Barker's program.

"The man is a liar and a fool"  Barker says of Killinger. He claims that "the psychiatrists can't do a damn thing with kids on drugs". Barker got his own degree in psychology from a Fort Lauderdale diploma mill that was closed in 1972 by the state.

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article in the national magazine (now defunct)
"THESE ARE NEW TIMES"  9/8/1974

Thom:
Art was not one to mince words back then. I think I have a solution to the diploma controversy. Can we all agree that it came from a paper mill? ::ribbon::

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