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Dear Art,
GregFL:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-06 07:53:00, Ft. Lauderdale wrote:
"I was agreeing with your atty comment"
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oops, I take it back.
:grin: :grin: :grin:
Ft. Lauderdale:
I disagree, I did not miss the point.
In fact , I think you actually missed it brother.
I think it was about 30 years ago that you missed it, to be perfectly honest.
GregFL:
Really? I missed it?
Thank God then, I'm one of the lucky ones!
::cheers::
FueLaw:
The Seed and it's successor programs hurt way more people than they ever helped. The damage is impossible to determine. The labeled people failures who did not complete the program or who had slips or relapses. Young kids had this drilled into their heads for 12 hours a day everyday. Are you trying to say this did not have a detrimental effect on kids? Are you trying to say that programs such as this did not push some people over the edge? What if a kid was truely mentally ill,how were incompetent staff members,like John Underwood & others, going to help them? The bastards and bitches on staff could barely help themselves how in the world could they really help others?
I think it is rather funny that Seed will take credit for any possible success stories but yet take no responsibilty for any of the failures. Why is that? [ This Message was edited by: FueLaw on 2005-10-06 08:08 ]
GregFL:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-06 08:06:00, FueLaw wrote:
"The Seed and it's successor programs hurt way more people than they ever helped. The damage is impossible to determine. The labeled people failures who did not complete the program or who had slips or relapses. Young kids had this drilled into their heads for 12 hours a day everyday. Are you trying to say this did not have a detrimental effect on kids? Are you trying to say that programs such as this did not push some people over the edge? What if a kid was truely mentally ill,how were incompetent staff members,like John Underwood & others, going to help them? The bastards and bitches on staff could barely help themselves how in the world could they really help others?
I think it is rather funny that Seed will take credit for any possible success stories but yet take no responsibilty for any of the failures. Why is that? [ This Message was edited by: FueLaw on 2005-10-06 08:08 ]"
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On this I agree. My personal story is that I got MUCH WORSE after graduating the seed because the seed stripped me of all my friends pre seed, then they left me without any. Then my father became such a program fanatic that I had to flee. After that, I became hostile to authority and did more drugs than I would have ever dreamed of before going in the seed.
I finally came up for air at around 20 but the anger and shame of being in the seed stayed for years. In addition, a family rift continued for many years over it.
No, I joke around lot today about it because it is in the past but the seed really screwed up my young life. It ruined my high school, helped cause me to hate authority, and did nothing to keep me "straight".
I agree also that if the seed is going to point to every person that "made it" and take credit, than they damn well need to own up to the failures as well. Also, using that first and most important rule, drop the outlandish 90% "success" claims. THAT is one of the biggest crocks ever to come out of that place, and was based on mistruths and wishfull thinking.
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