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Dear John U
rjfro22:
Gregfl,
How did your parents find out about the Seed?
What possessed them so seek out help for you.?
Thom:
--- Quote ---I also agree with your assesm,ent of Barker. He was just an ego tripping bastard who one day will rot forever in hell.
--- End quote ---
So....what will he do the next day?
GregFL:
Are you kidding me? First, "A seed of hope" was running on channel 44 all the time. Second, all the rage in St Pete was to commit your kids. Third, my step siblings got committed 4 days or so before I did, and then they asked the group who had done drugs with their brother and sister.
At the time I was committed to the seed, while no angel, I was living with my mom in ft lauderdale and had not even smoked a joint in over a month. my father, on instruction from staff in st pete, made up a lie about wanting to see us and drove us from Ft lauderdale right to the st pete seed where we were badgered by Mrs Peterman. If the allegations about the guy that did my strip search are true, I was strip searched by a rapist.
I was threatened and lied to for hours before they had me sign the paper, and they kept coming back from the group with first names of kids in the group that were claiming they did this drug or that drug with me or my sister, and in the final analysis was threatened with my father declaring me incorrigible and sending me to the infamous SPJD center for a rousing round of anal rape if I didn't sign myself in for "just three days..if you don't like it after that you can go".
Honesty was what again? The first and most what?
Ft. Lauderdale:
Antigen- It sounds like you are alot more like your mother than you would like to see. The apple does not fall far from the tree.
Jupiter Survivor:
I remember that my grandmother (who lived with us) told me that staff was asking my mom about kids that hung out with names and addresses. She was told to talk to those parents and try to "save" those kids. Amway meets the Moonies....kind of like a pyramid scam, only they didn't get commissions, just that nice fuzzy feeling that they are saving the world from the evils of drugs. Art and the senior staff constantly were telling the parents that is was their duty to spread the word.
I know I was no angel, but my family life was.....well let me just say very few people I have met have had worse. My mother dumped us at churches, Christian schools, where ever she could, with whoever would take us. The school I was at before the Seed was Berean Baptist in WPB. Of course I didn't fit in there either. Even after graduating the Seed, I was told by that principle that girls like me would never change. I figured why bother trying, was damned if I do, damned if I don't. When I started dating my husband, I can still remember my mom telling me not to screw that up like I did everything else....in a sense she was dumping me on him. To this day my mom still has never said "I am proud of you". She still thinks that the Seed was the best thing to happened to her.....er us. Crap, it probably was. My brother and I were gone almost a year, it was a vacation of sorts for her. I didn't realize at the time that my Aunts and Uncles were very upset that she had put us in the Seed. Although they didn't know the extent of our family life, they knew that is wasn't normal.
I really think that parents were different in the 70's. My mom was actually 2 generations older than me. I never even owed a pair of jeans till I was 14. She was still under the "children should be seen not heard" mind set. Most of my friends, like myself are very involved in their children's lives. She had 3 failed marriages, all alcoholic and physically abusive. My oldest brother had to finally take a gun after my dad and make my mom leave and he was only 17. That left her emotionally dead and unable to be a loving parent. I am lucky to have a great relationship with kids. My oldest is in College in Boca and we talk to each other every day. I had a good example of what not to be.
Some survive, some give up.....I teetered between the two for a long time. Ultimately I survived and took charge of my life. The process was not easy or quick. The only thing I have not managed to conquer is smoking........which was almost encouraged at the Seed. Amazing....14 years old and my mom brought my brother and I a carton of smokes every week.
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