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Dear John U
rjfro22:
Antigen,
How come the Seed did not accept you ?
If they just wanted to fill up the 1st row.
Didn't your parents try to get you in........
How come you were spared.
We love you
Antigen:
Well, I've gotten a couple of versions; one from my mom, one from John. They both agree that my parents tried to put me in and that staff said no. Mom says Art cited 'no newcomers who had been through rehab'. She has not always had a real close relationship w/ objective reality. John says it was that I didn't need it, that I wasn't a druggie. But it's hard for me to believe that, having hitchhiked up the Eastern seaboard leaving an empty pot baggie under my mattress.
So I still don't know the reason why. Maybe they were afraid I'd bring about a mass revolt. Maybe their stories had changed and I had been a wittness to the original versions. I really haven't got any way to get a better answer. I think I'd need a time machine to find out.
What do you think? Or what do you know? I'm not sure who you are, do you know something I don't?
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rjfro22:
Antigen,
Thank you for the answer. I really did not know much about the inside workings of the Seed until this forum.
GregFL:
--- Quote ---On 2005-09-28 07:30:00, Ft. Lauderdale wrote:
""Your post also touches on another topic, "Crappy Parents". The Seed enabled many lousy parents to simply dump their problems off at SR84 or some other facility. The parents were told what they wanted to hear, that it was their children that were the cause of all the problems and not them In addition the Seed would send them a nice wonderful well behaved kid in just 14 or so days. That was just to friggin good to pass up. "
Now you really have no idea what you are talking about... :cry2: "
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Oh a major BULLSHIT on you.
My parents were told specifically that all the problems in the family were the cause of drugs. There was even a catchy little phrase "the first time it wasn't your fault, the next time it will be" meaning that if the parents just blindly and unquestionably followed the seed, all would be well
And...when I got off my "10 to 10" and was only supposed to come so many days a week, my parents made my sister and I go to the seed everyday and both weekend days because they were busy trying to start a business, in addition to turning over ALL the household chores to us, all of them.
GregFL:
--- Quote ---On 2005-09-28 15:16:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2005-09-28 15:07:00, rjfro22 wrote:
I also agree with FtLauderdale, the blame is on your parents. Why on earth did they put you in the seed?, I quess you were an angel.
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Turns out a LOT of Seedlings made up out of whole cloth their past drug use stories just to get off front row.
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There was something else going on as well. The culture of the seed gave cred to those that really were hard "on the streets", even hurrying them thru the program, giving more weight to what they said, and grooming them for staff. Once one submitted himself to the idea of giving into the madness and going for the ride, it was a natural tendency for the youngsters to try to pony up and make it seem like they really had a problem.
I remember specifically making things sound much more severe and worse than they really were, because I thought that would further along my selfish cause, to earn my way out of that hellhole.
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