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Another note to John Underwood
marshall:
Sorry to see you go, Thom. If this were a cult, I'd tell you that without fornits you are sure to end up in a.) hell b.) insane c.) prison d.) dead. Choose one or all. I appreciated your input here.
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"This stuff happened 30 years ago, for crying out loud! GET A LIFE!)"
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I hope reading or posting here isn't a substitute for anyone's life, but I get your point. It was a long time ago for many of us...and heck the Seed program itself is defunct. Strange that so many of us get so worked up about events so long ago. Easy to lose perspective. A bunch of old farts arguing about stuff from our childhood. Staff sometimes trying to reprise their role as authority figures and other posters acting like angry, rebellious teens...as if this all happened last week. Take care.
Why...when I was on my program we had to walk 3 miles through the snow just to sit for 10 hours on hard metal chairs...dagnabit! :wave:
Ft. Lauderdale:
Thom. Sorry to see you go, but I don't blame you
you are kind of teamed up against around here.
Good Luck & best wishes. I'll probably join you soon in your retirement from this site.
Antigen,
I can not fathom that you don't know the difference between a druggie and an addict. But then again you don't know the difference between the Seed & straight either.
I have come to believe that you really don't know what you are talking about. I hope to God you get it someday.
I have enjoyed reconnecting with alot of folks on this site.
I will check in from time to time to see if I recognize any one else from their posts. I've been pretty lucky so far.
¾È³ç ±×¸®°í Çà¿îÀ» º÷´Ï´Ù (thats good bye & good luck
in Korean Mind control) really just Korean
Anonymous:
if this were a cult you'd be telling us what to think, ...wait a minute that is what you do
ah,...the sea of denial, ain't it beautiful
cleveland:
Give me a break. A pretty good number of the posters here are very pro-Seed, many others are on the fence. Your sister may be very anti-anti, but she's about the only one who doesn't have anything positive to say about it.
Well, if you can't take the heat, then get out of the kitchen I guess. I for one will express my truth and let the chips fall where they may. I am very careful not to blame, accuse or make bald assertions. Very rarely am I challenged for this reason. The Seed has good and bad; AA has good and bad: Thom, Ginger, Walter, Ft. Laud. have good and bad; John U - good and bad. Greg alone is perfect! (Um...joking).
Come back from time to time. I enjoy your sense of humor (mostly). I think you and Ginger should try to reconcile, but I know that's not easy. Such a shame to lose family.
Walter
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-09-29 19:38:00, Thom wrote:
Totally false, Ginger.
A druggie is a person who uses (illicit) drugs.
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That is NOT a condition requiring any sort of treatment, let alone a radical program like the Seed. It does not justify the strip searches, isolation from the world, group come down raps or any of the rest of it. You must know that by now you would have put my neice in a program.
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I know all the people you are refering to, and have used drugs with all of them (but not in a while:). If my math is right, I'm even one of them. I was never coerced into admitting I was a druggie by anyone. I admitted it of my own free will.
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Well, I never was inside your head. For all I know you really were that crazy by age 14. But I'm highly skeptical of the idea. All the rest of us have since said it was bullshit.
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An addict is a person who can no longer claim to be a recreational drug user because they can't stop, or could not stop without help.
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Yes, roughly 1% of people who start using addictive drugs have some difficulty quitting. That does NOT describe the vast majority of kids who were placed there, like Greg, because someone stood up in group and LIED about having gotten high w/ them at one time or another. Also, btw, this medical condition can not be diagnosed by the presense of concert posters and tshirts, new friends, an intense need for privacy, trying on new styles and entertainment or making new friends. That's how Art said you could tell your kid was carrying on a secret double life as a heroin addicted hooker. And it was a lie.
--- Quote ---I, Thom McNulty (on behalf of myself), who used to be a druggie (used illicit drugs) a long time ago, and freely admitted it while at The Seed, do hereby revoke my (his/her) status as a member of the Fornits Cult. Further, I demand that any and all persons who publicly proclaim a given number of 'Fornits Cult Members', henceforth reduce said number by one.
I do this of my own free will for the following reason(s): I/he/she don't wish to submit myself to the false teachings and abusive behavior of the Fornits Cult any longer.
Although I've enjoyed catching up on fond memories of my time at The Seed with a few posters here, I feel I have contributed all my experiences from The Seed.
(This stuff happened 30 years ago, for crying out loud! GET A LIFE!)
I am a truthful person, and have had enough of being accused of lying by Ginger, Greg and Anon. I have nothing I need to prove to anyone, and reading some of this crap is an annoying waste my valuable time. See ya!
( ::bangin:: ::ftard:: ::dove:: "
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Just sit tight, broth. The SIBS mobile is headed your way. :roll:
The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason.
--Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father, author, and inventor
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