Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Seed Discussion Forum
Another note to John Underwood
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-09-30 07:55:00, cleveland wrote:
Come back from time to time. I enjoy your sense of humor (mostly). I think you and Ginger should try to reconcile, but I know that's not easy. Such a shame to lose family.
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Thanks, Walter. I appreciate the sentiment. But here's the thing; Thom and the rest of the family are still quite dangerous to me emotionally. Hell, even in practical terms.
Try settling an estate w/ people who think they can legitimately win any argument by saying "You're crazy, you're a druggie, I don't have any time to listen to your drugged out ramblings or read any old stupid letters between you and that crazy old man."
That happened just 3 years ago.
And that's just money and property! Never mind what happens if I ever have a rough time or need any kind of emotional support. No sir, thanks but no thanks! I'll stick w/ the family I've got.
A student burst into his office. "Professor Stigler, I don't believe I deserve this F you've given me." To which Stigler replied, "I agree, but unfortunately it is the lowest grade the University will allow me to award."
--Professor Stigler
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cleveland:
You have to make that call.
I hope that as the years pass, you will be able to talk. But if not, you've set up this forum and directly or indirectly, there's an avenue to communicate. Safer than a 'family meeting!'
Walter
Antigen:
Thanks.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
--Bruce Lee
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rjfro22:
Thom,
Thanks for sharing old memories, since discoving this forum so many things came back to me, the good and the bad, but mostly the good. It seems there are a few people that just can't handle anything good being said about the Seed. I know your mother and your sister Ginger made sandwiches during a period when I was there and I want to thank them for there hard work. As a whole group the Seed did have a special power it was a spiritual experiece for me, I had a chance to be a part of something positive which I never had in life before the Seed and people really mattered to me. I wish your sister could have been there to have experienced that love, but she wasn't. she will try to compare the Seed to many other places, but they were copycats. There was only one Seed and you had to be in it to have experienced it. And for those that feel the Seed was abusive and a brain washing prison, well that's their perception and I won't dispute that, but I would blame them and their parents for puting them in there, in case they all forgot it was a drug rehab.
Thom, I hope you will continue to post for those of us who enjoy what you have to say...
Anonymous:
"Yes, roughly 1% of people who start using addictive drugs have some difficulty quitting. That does NOT describe the vast majority of kids who were placed there, like Greg, because someone stood up in group and LIED about having gotten high w/ them at one time or another. Also, btw, this medical condition can not be diagnosed by the presense of concert posters and tshirts, new friends, an intense need for privacy, trying on new styles and entertainment or making new friends. That's how Art said you could tell your kid was carrying on a secret double life as a heroin addicted hooker. And it was a lie."
this, by antigen, is 100%, unadultered BULLSHIT.
where do you get this stuff? beginning to think maybe Thom is the sane one in your family.
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