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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-02-12 18:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
i'm not into all those psychology crap...when eidsor did what she should have, we didnt get smoked and when she didnt, we did. it was her fault, not my parents, or stupid loser adults...it was cheryl eidsor."
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Nope, it was your parents fault and Thayer's fault. Period. Thayer created that hellish environment and your parents chose to abdicate their responsibilities over to a bunch of power hungry hacks.
tlcrescue:
sorry, but sometimes it is other cadets fault that people get smoked. When my son was there, he had a bladder problem, requiring him to urinate frequently. But, they don't allow very many bathroom breaks while in cadet status (dont know about higher levels). When he would ask to go, they would tell him he could go, but that when he returned from the bathroom, the rest of the cadets would get a 2 hour smoke session while he stood by and watched. My son wasn't going to let that happen, so rather than go to the bathroom and allow the other cadets be punished for him going, he chose to urinate on himself, which, of course, led to him getting smoked instead. Some people may not have chosen that route, they may have chosen to go to the bathroom (or whatever their current circumstance was).
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-02-13 11:45:00, tlcrescue wrote:
"sorry, but sometimes it is other cadets fault that people get smoked. When my son was there, he had a bladder problem, requiring him to urinate frequently. But, they don't allow very many bathroom breaks while in cadet status (dont know about higher levels). When he would ask to go, they would tell him he could go, but that when he returned from the bathroom, the rest of the cadets would get a 2 hour smoke session while he stood by and watched. My son wasn't going to let that happen, so rather than go to the bathroom and allow the other cadets be punished for him going, he chose to urinate on himself, which, of course, led to him getting smoked instead. Some people may not have chosen that route, they may have chosen to go to the bathroom (or whatever their current circumstance was)."
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How do you figure that would be the other cadets' fault? That's Thayer's policy and the staff enforcing it. No way in hell that the other cadets have ANY control over that.
AtomicAnt:
--- Quote ---i'm not into all those psychology crap...when eidsor did what she should have, we didnt get smoked and when she didnt, we did. it was her fault, not my parents, or stupid loser adults...it was cheryl eidsor.
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Simple logical question. Why should you have been smoked for another cadet's misbehavior? You can never be responsible for another's actions. The reason is solely that those in charge said so. That is all. Nothing more to it. The 'group consequences rule' is just a stupid rule and the only people who buy it are stupid people, or those with a sadistic agenda. It does not help any individual grow. It only helps to break an individual's will.
Here's a news flash. 'Smoking' children is flat out child abuse. Period. No exceptions. No excuses. No responsible adult would ever engage in this sort of behavior.
tlcrescue:
--- Quote ---On 2006-02-13 11:50:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-02-13 11:45:00, tlcrescue wrote:
"sorry, but sometimes it is other cadets fault that people get smoked. When my son was there, he had a bladder problem, requiring him to urinate frequently. But, they don't allow very many bathroom breaks while in cadet status (dont know about higher levels). When he would ask to go, they would tell him he could go, but that when he returned from the bathroom, the rest of the cadets would get a 2 hour smoke session while he stood by and watched. My son wasn't going to let that happen, so rather than go to the bathroom and allow the other cadets be punished for him going, he chose to urinate on himself, which, of course, led to him getting smoked instead. Some people may not have chosen that route, they may have chosen to go to the bathroom (or whatever their current circumstance was)."
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How do you figure that would be the other cadets' fault? That's Thayer's policy and the staff enforcing it. No way in hell that the other cadets have ANY control over that."
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Yes, apparently that is Thayer's policy. However, the cadet still DOES have a choice as I clearly pointed out above. My son had a CHOICE to either go to the bathroom and allow the other cadet's to be smoked, or to urinate on himself and subject only himself to being smoked. When other cadet's get smoked because of the behavior of one cadet, that is a choice, the cadet that incurred the behavior that resulted in the "smoking session" had a choice. Now, that is not to say I agree with their smoking session policy, I personally think it is ridiculous, but regardless it is still a choice.
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