Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
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OverLordd:
waste, sorry sorry
jellybean:
What do you like about Blue Hills? I didn't see anything attractive about it. Also, maybe you could explain exactly what WWASP is and exactly what this site represents? Seems there is obviously two sides here in debate.
That it is wrong for a man to say he is certain of the objective truth of a proposition unless he can provide evidence which logically justifies that certainty. This is what agnosticism asserts and in my opinion, is all that is essential to agnosticism.
--Thomas Henry Huxley, English biologist
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Anonymous:
WWASP/S is a network of highly abusive, cult-like "teen help" programs. 8 of their programs have been shut down due to abuse and neglect. Their program consists of confrontational "group sessions", in which students humiliate and berate each other, and Lifespring-style seminars, during which students and parents are indoctrinated and eventually come to accept WWASPS as their savior (notice how almost all the graduate talk about how their lives were saved? Yeah).
WWASPS, and any of their spin offs, must be avoided if you care at all about your child.
More info is available here:
http://www.isaccorp.org
http://education.guardian.co.uk/classro ... 32,00.html
Anonymous:
Blue Hills? I live in AZ - Blue Hills is a very small spin off by a former WWASPS person. Don't know if she was an employee or what. Someone said she used to be married to David Gilcrease. Rumor maybe.
Anyway the pro of this would be that your kid is in AZ. The con would be there are no family support systems in place - there is a Phoenix family support group that meets once a month and tons of ways to connect with each other during other times. Kids went - graduate or not - come to the meetings too.
There are no parent/child workshops that I'm aware of nor are there any workshops/seminars for you as a parent to get your life to a different place (if you need it, of course) Some do, some don't.
Schools and programs that are overseen by WWASPS are always in the news - both good and bad. I have personal experience and know the bad is media hype - you know kinda like a famous person - the more famous they are the worse the stories. Usually always based on fact but twisted so it hardly even resembles the truth anymore.
There are thousands of success stories, but only a few that feel they were not given what they were promised. Funny thing is, WWASPS, nor each individual school promises anything. People hear only what they want to
If I wanted to believe my kid was being abused, I could have stupidly gone up to Cross Creek and pulled him out - didn't though, just made sure it wasn't true in other ways. He said anything he could in the beginning to get me to come and rescue him from having to follow rules or to get away from not being able to do what he pleased.
If you really read some of the stories about abuse, you'll certainly see what would motivate it. My son was there for 19 months and in all that time the only abuse he saw was the kids abusing the staff or their parents when they came to visit - his words. He's been home 5 years so it's not a "fresh" experience and his story hasn't changed.
Good luck to you in your research. It's always best to look at both sides.
Here's a couple of links that help on the "pro" side - not welcome on this site and will get a lot of blasting - I can take it.
http://www.wwasprebuttal.com/parent_references.html
If you're in AZ - you can get some information on the schools at http://www.arizonateenhelp.com - you won't be talking with someone somewhere in cyberspace - you will be getting info from parents that have been where you are right now and in the same area. As far as I know they aren't there to tell you what to do - only give you their personal experience and answer your questions. I'm not sure what happens after that other than talking to an admissions person if you decide that's what you want to do next.
But, please let us know if there's any pressure or anything that would be considered not right.
PHX
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---Here's a couple of links that help on the "pro" side
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You have to be kidding, right? The 'pro side'?! :lol: These were written by WWASP themselves, the company who is raking in tens of millions of dollars per year (probably well over a hundred million now) on the backs of ignorant parents. Shame on all of you.
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