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Anonymous:
You say you are willing, but you haven't. I pray that you never have to. You see most people who make that claim, don't realy understand what they are saying, it sounds good, but in reality it is very hollow. Idealism + poor judgement - expeirence = a lot of full bodybags. You are safely tucked away for the next four years, your also in cadet land, not out in the fleet. Out in the real world, where the rubber meets the road, that is where your claim will be tested. The truth is you don't realy know what you will do if you ever get in that type of situation. I get the impression that you have no real deep scars on your soul, not the ones that make you wake up in a cold sweat. I don't think that you see thier faces eachnight. SO who the hell are you to tell us that we have to risk the security of our family. Who are you to tell us, who have done more to help kids at HLA than just flame people on web boards. IMHO you haven't done shit, your all talk, and no walk. Why haven't you snuck on campus like you posted about, where is your pickett sign, where is your mass of humanity clamoring for heads.

Ps. you have to answer the questions to get the bonus points boys and girls

Troll Control:
at least he joined the military.  what deep scars on your soul do you have from working at a bm warehouse?  what deep sacrifices did you make to serve the population of hla?

did they beat you with a rubber hose for doing the "right thing"?  what heavy price did you pay?

you seem to be equating signing over your life to the military to working as a counselor.  what the fuck kind of comparison is that?  what kind of egocentric idiot are you?

you're a fucking self-righteous, sanctimonius asswipe is all.  get a fucking grip on reality.

besides your moronic argument, the problem with places like hla is that the programs don't work.  it doesn't make a shit's worth of difference if you try hard to help because the structure, the environment are not therapeutic.

by working there and defending their methods you only show your ignorance, nothing more.  if had any skills or were otherwise employable and were a decent person, you'd move on to meaningful employment.  in the end, your just a lowlife who contributes to the suffering of children by promoting a system that endangers their mental and emotional well-being.

how dare you equate yourself with someone who has made a real personal sacrifice, idealistic or not.  you've got nerve.

if all your family has is you to provide for them monetarily and morally, you've already endagered them quite well on your own.  it's assholes like you that perpetuate the suffering of children in abusive and totally ineffective "programs."

i bet you'd be just as defensive of your job if you were working to herd jews into gas chambers.  self-centered, dim-witted little bastard.  "good work" + bad business = suffering.

that's an equation you should familiarize yourself with, foolish ideologue.

Anonymous:
Opinion are like assholes everyone has one and they all stink. He has not joined the military, he's in ROTC. Let's see a few weeks in college ROTC vs. 10 years in the Marines , tours in Desert Shield/ Storm, Somalia, Bosnia, Hati, & Afganistan. You seem to miss my point, He hides behind a web board, and not out there trying to make a difference. It is a rotton system, it does not help everyone, but some it does. I know because I have seen it with my own eyes. Not once have I defended anything to do with the program. Did you work there, did you circumvent the system to get the kids what they really needed, did you care for them to the point where it almost destroyed your marriage. I got as many of them out of there as I could, did the best I knew how to help them. Does it tear at my soul that I couldn't help more of them, hell yes it does. Maybe I am being a bit of an asshole, I am not going to appologise for that, I'm just doing exactly what Overlordd is doing speaking his mind. I have not defended the school, nor will I I saw too much for that, but I will defend my personal actions. If you were not there you have no right to judge me.

OverLordd:

--- Quote ---. Let's see a few weeks in college ROTC vs. 10 years in the Marines , tours in Desert Shield/ Storm, Somalia, Bosnia, Hati, & Afganistan
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What was the condition of your discharge?

I don't hide behind any web board. I stand up and say what I think every day of my life, just because I have not had the chance to act on it does not mean I will when I can. If you ask me about this on the street I will say what I think. Just because I post on a web board does not mean I am hiding. If I post anon, then I am hiding. I am easly contactable in the real world through his board. You dont have to have deep scars to do anything special, indeed if you have deep scars then what good does it do you?

Thank you for your service to our country, but you can't hide behind that and hide behind your scars and say that I have not done anything. You are alot older than I am, and chances are, by the time I'm your age, I will have done just as much as you.

Deborah:
I'm sure the kids appreciated your efforts.
Without revealing too many details which could identify you, can you talk about how you were able to get some of them out?
What were their needs that you circumvented the system in order to get?

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