I take issue with this whole thing about alumni bashing each other because we all have differing opinions about the CEDU schools and what that experience really was. (and that goes for both sides of the fence. i.e. Pro cedu people taking others to task for being anti-cedu, and vice-versa.) My reasons for this are mainly because we were ALL "products" (for lack of a better word) of that same experience. We all had to go through that same thing.
Tina wasn't the one who wrote the propheets or decided on what the daily structure was for the school, or made you go down to the wood corral to work, or put you on a full-time for running away, or made you stay up for six days in the Summit. She had to do the same things you did. She just happened to like it or remember it in a positive way. If you must take issue with the CEDU/RMA experience, take it up with the facilitators of the school, i.e. the administrators and faculty, and Mel (or Brown). These were the people who set the agenda, not the students.
I DO understand the hostility, because pro-CEDU alumni come off like they are encouraging a program that personally hurt *you*, but I think it's important to remember that they went through the exact same experiences you did, and had very little power or autonomy of their own as a student at the school. (Despite what they may think.) Sure, they may have yelled at you in a rap, or "pulled you up" (god I hated that stupid term), but that was about it.
At the same time, the pro-CEDU people don't get off so easily, either. I think that making blanket statements in these forums towards anti-CEDU students saying that they just "didn't get it" invalidates their experience. There are a lot of CEDU alumni who had a lot of problems with the program, and also have some emotional scarring and trauma around some of their experiences, and being judgemental towards their understanding of what happened is not only hurtful, but goes against those very CEDU teachings that you pro-CEDU students hold so dear, does it not? (I'm also not speaking specifically to tina in this instance, either, because I haven't read many, if any, of her posts, so I don't know what she's said about the schools, but I have read other pro-CEDU rants in here that have said such insensitive things.)
But really, some of the backbiting in the CEDU forum is totally counterproductive. What does this accomplish?
As for me, I don't regard my experience at RMA so black and white. (I was there in the 80s.) Personally, I find the Wasserman theraputic ideology to be totally dysfunctional, abusive and corrosive. The staff were unqualified, abused their power, and were rather nutty. (I know, such a technical term.) Their attention to medical needs was downright negligent. I personally feel that I was brainwashed, (I loooooved the program, while I was there) and I went through several years of having to deprogram myself after graduation, as well as therapy and nightmares to get over the anger, rensentment and hurt from my experience there. But I'm over it. I don't hold my parents responsible. They had no idea what kinds of crazy things happened up there.
However, as abusive and crazy and disturbing as that place was, it still kept me out of trouble for two and a half years, and even though emotionally I left extremely weirded out, disturbed and confused, *situationally*, I left in a better place. i.e. I was ready for college, which I might not have been otherwise. So there were some logistical nuts and bolts plusses.
And I do have some positive memories from that place. (key word here being "some") Namely the wilderness experiences. One, because it was a break from actually being at the freakin' school, and two, I got to see parts of the country I never would have been able to see otherwise, and they were downright beautiful. I also got addicted to telemark skiing. (Okay, so I'm a dork.) and I learned how to rock climb and rappel, and I think those kinds of things are character builders, even though my knees are too crappy to do those kinds of things anymore.
Oh, and I also liked the sauna. That was fun, even though it was stinky.
In addition, I think I can safely say that there is zero risk of me ever being suckered into joining any sort of cult, because I can see all the signs from a mile away and can spot when someone is feeding me a line or a slogan or some feel-good bumper sticker jargon, so that's good.
I'm a firm believer in the whole thing about what does not kill us makes us stronger. The fact is, I went through this totally bizarre and surreal experience that not many people know about or go through. It was EXTREMELY disturbing, and it took me a while to get over, but I think that I'm stronger now for it, because 1. It toughened me up emotionally (not *because* of their therapy, but *in spite* of it), and 2. I know how totally full of shit people can be.
Ultimately, there really is nothing I can do about the fact that I went there, so the only thing I really CAN do about it is move on, you know?