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Concern for a "student"

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Troll Control:
NCL, check your pm's...

Antigen:
Yup, NCL makes a good point. It seems extremely unlikely to me that naming the program of which you speak would in any way compromise your privacy or reveal your identity. I'm assuming you're not the only family ever enroled in said program, correct? Ok then... so what could be the source of your great aprehension? Are you afraid you'll find out things about your favorite program that you'd rather not know? That seems most likely.


--- Quote ---I am asking that people understand that parents do things sometimes out of desperation and it is not my role or the role of anyone elses to fault them for it, can't they be informed without being bashed?

--- End quote ---


Yes! Absolutely. A better question might be whether they can be informed w/o perceiving it as a personal attack. In my experience, usually not. Usually, they perceive it as a personal attack and then start casting disparriaging remarks in the direction of the perceived attacker.

It usually goes something like this

Program vet: "You're making a big mistake! Those people are lying to you about what they're doing to your kid. Don't believe them! Go get your kid asap!"

Program parent: "How dare you accuse me of abusing my child! You're such a meanie! I refuse to expose myself to this sort of abuse! Boo Hoo!"

(back at ST)
"I don't think it's safe for us to even LOOK at that forum! Those people are viscious! You should see what they said to me! No wait, don't look! It might be dangerous!"

Any excuse to avoid facing the facts. That's why the industry is such a mess.



There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is
proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in
everlasting ignorance- that principle is contempt prior to investigation.
--Herbert Spencer
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Deborah:
"It's umprogramerican to think critically."

Unprogramerican?
Should be added to the randon quotes.

Deborah:
***I again post my name at the bottom of my posts and do it all the time so please don't confuse me with others.

Just curious Andrea, why you don't use the PFRR log in you registered? Sure would make finding posts easier.

Anonymous:
We have tried to discuss specific programs before. Those on this board will not consider ANY positive things about programs.  ALL wilderness programs are abusive and the kids are starved and forced to hike for hourse.  ALL TBSs are isolating and brain wash the kids.  And-you can count on Dysfunctional Dysfunction to resort to insults and swearing when he decides he has heard enough.  If you look at ANY of the threads where parents (and kids) have been sucked into revealing the names of programs you will see the same hostility and inability to be reasonable.  And here you are again asking for a program name?  Don't think so.  This woman needs to post over on strugglingteens and ask for private messages regarding the program.  She will get honest and insightful responses from families who actually have experience with that particular program.

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