Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Concern for a "student"
Antigen:
That's just one person. Several others just want to know which program we're talking about. It just seems a little crazy to try and have this discussion w/o knowing that basic fact.
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.
--Philosopher, Blaise Pascal
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Deborah:
What you may not know, is that unless your daughter was in a very unique and 'exceptional' program, she would have frequently heard those exact words. And possibly much worse.
In which case, would she have been the victim of hostility and judgement OR involved in a 'therapeutic' process?
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-13 10:20:00, Antigen wrote:
"That's just one person. Several others just want to know which program we're talking about. It just seems a little crazy to try and have this discussion w/o knowing that basic fact.
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.
--Philosopher, Blaise Pascal
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Oy vey. Enough already. Get ready for the next installment of "Deflection Theater."
People like this DON'T WANT REAL DEBATE. They just want to hear themselves talk and, as Niles correctly pointed out, have pity parties for themselves when others don't subscribe to their point of view.
If she tells you the name of the program, she'll have to live with the "consequences." Poeple are going to disturb the little vacuum bubble she lives in. She's too afraid to have her viewpoint challenged and maybe have to reevaluate her position/thinking.
That ain't gonna happen. I can tell you that right now. It's unprogramerican to think critically.
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"Compassion is the basis of morality"
-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2005-08-13 11:06 ]
Anonymous:
I am not anon, I always state my name, and so because others have failed we all give up is that the attitude? I am not giving up on these kids and am not asking you Ginger to Censor at all that is not a good way to go either. I am asking that people understand that parents do things sometimes out of desperation and it is not my role or the role of anyone elses to fault them for it, can't they be informed without being bashed? I again post my name at the bottom of my posts and do it all the time so please don't confuse me with others.
Andrea
Nonconformistlaw:
Truthsearcher said-----"I guess the label "parent" has labeled me as a pariah."
Although I am not trying to speak for everyone, if you read other threads, you will notice that certain trolls, usually posting as anonymous, always stir things up, regularly slander people posting her, never support their positions, refuse to supply facts for their position, are always extremely secretive, and label program survivors as liars every chance they get. Motives of such individuals are highly suspect, and so I believe many people here get very "defensive" if someone comes across the way I just described. Not saying you are these things mind you, just trying to shed some light on why you might feel as though you've been labled as a "pariah parent."
That said, I can say from personal experience here, that it is extremeny frustrating when a parent comes along, talks about how great these programs are, and absolutely refuses to listen to the other side. I for one am very sensitive and react strongly to such individuals because I KNOW how horrifying many of these places can be. Maybe this comes across as hostile sometimes, maybe it doesn't.
Again, not trying to speak for everyone, but it's clear that posters here have extremely strong feelings about programs or else the would be here. And their feelings are valid, including mine and yours, and even the feelings of the "hostile ones." BTW, there are plenty of parents here that get quite a lot of good feedback.
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