Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Concern for a "student"
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--- Quote ---On 2005-08-12 15:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Nihil is a moron. He is a 20 year old who never grew up emotionally and he gets his kicks by slamming parents on a messge board. He is probably an unpopular, unattractive loser who can only be cool while he is in front of a keyboard."
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What are you now, an armchair therapist?
At least Niles cares about children and seeks to alleviate the horror to which people just like you subject them.
You're very fond of saying you won't discuss the particulars of your child's placement because it "leads to bashing," but you sit here and bash just the same.
If you don't like Niles, fine. Don't engage him then.
That being said, you are still just acting like a child, using ad hominem attacks and attempting to "character assassinate" someone who you don't even know, simply because you are at an utter loss to refute his arguments.
Is this why you're upset with Niles? Because he's only twenty and you don't have the cognitive horsepower to deal with him? Pretty petty...
Try acting like an adult for a change and EXPLAIN exactly WHY "your program" is a good one. Name the program, explain how your child was diagnosed and with what disorder and tell us how the treatment plan that your program drafted addressed your child's psychological and social maladaption.
Please, we're all eager to hear about a good program so that we may point struggling parents to a place that won't actually abuse and neglect their child.
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-12 15:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
Don't let those here diminish or make you question what you know"
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Yeah, be careful! People around here have super psychic special powers. We'll cast a spell that makes you think good programs are bad. Better keep the name of the place a secret, cause we need that like a voo doo master needs a lock of hair to work the magic. :roll:
Or, more likely, ppl around here might know a little more about some of these programs than you do. Some of them may even have spent time as clients or staff there. Ya' just never know until you ask.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
-- Hunter S. Thompson
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Anonymous:
Ya know folks, parents make mistakes - you all talk about changing things, wanting to make a difference so other kids don't end up in horrific places, by bashing parents, ganging up on them, not allowing them to justify their feelings of sadness, fear, etc. is not going to accomplish your mission it gives you all less verasity and eventually it will be the few of you on this board, and no one will pay attention at all. If that is what your goal is then keep on doing it.
Grow up folks! Listen in my work whether I agree with a parent or not for their choices it not my place to say even when asked, I inform them of alternatives, what is out there, how to get accurate information, and make the best choices, we cannot tell parents what is best for their children or they are wrong.
These people turn to Ed Consultants of which I am researching - credentials are very scary - one I spoke to has an MBA? What does this have to do with Children/Adolescents, Education, Mental Health, DD, or Substance Abuse Issues? I am very concerned that their are more of these out there, with no actual knowledge other than how to get on a plane, get fed a good meal, brought on a PR tour, help parents apply for loans when needed, and have a rolodex of transports. These are the people that you need to focus your efforts on as well as the bad programs, until that happens and they are stopped, the parents will continue to send their children. For whatever reason when they turn to others for help they are feeling desperate it is not for you or me to dispute their feelings or to say they are not justified, if you want to play a role and make a difference then find a way to do it where people will pay attention and not think you are all nuts - I am not convinced that you are nuts - I feel you are passionate and committed to this cause, but need a more unified and convincing way to be taken seriously.
Be mad at me if you wish - this is my opinion and I know this from experience myself.
Andrea
Anonymous:
One more point - I in no way intened my previous post to be offensive just have been around for a while and see how people are often turned off. Ginger fights with me all the time and doesn't realize she is preaching to the chior (or tries to argue rather), it is important to show that you have some clout and knowledge in what you are doing, and this does not come by ganging up on people but to answer their questions in an understanding way and insert your knowledge in the answer.
Andrea
AtomicAnt:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-12 04:47:00, Truth Searcher wrote:
"OK.... well we really got off track.
I came looking for advise, from people who have some insider understanding of less than reputable programs. I have suspicious about the tactics used at New Horizons Youth Camp in Rexford Montana. I have utilized the advise offered here. I turned up nothing.
How we ended up on Paul Cummings and MY daughters program I haven't a clue.
And perhaps in time I will chose to disclose my daughters experience. But for the time being I choose not to. Imagine yourselves on a home-schooling forum, with parents who abhor the thoughts of a public education. And imagine being asked to disclose the name of the public school where they attend. And in your limited experience (with this said forum)you feel that the public school is going to be torn to shreds and your position/decision as a parent is going to be hung out to dry. So that is my position..... and I stand by it.
Thanks for listening."
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I give you a lot of credit. At least you are here doing the research, reading and debating.
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