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Shortbus:
There are probably people out there trying to get rich in this industry.... but think about it, there are way easier ways to make a buck than wilderness therapy or theraputic boarding schools. Heck, become a dirtbag building contractor!
On another note, I just spent a while reading this thread. Lordy it was long. There are some pretty harsh posts in it. If some of you fornits old timers want to run new folks off I can see that it might work. If its just a trial by fire kinda thing I can understand that too but let people know what the intention is. Most of the topics produce stong emotions and opinions are pretty polarized. I like hearing from different sides - keeps things interesting.
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-14 11:46:00, Shortbus wrote:
"There are probably people out there trying to get rich in this industry.... but think about it, there are way easier ways to make a buck than wilderness therapy or theraputic boarding schools. Heck, become a dirtbag building contractor!
On another note, I just spent a while reading this thread. Lordy it was long. There are some pretty harsh posts in it. If some of you fornits old timers want to run new folks off I can see that it might work. If its just a trial by fire kinda thing I can understand that too but let people know what the intention is. Most of the topics produce stong emotions and opinions are pretty polarized. I like hearing from different sides - keeps things interesting.
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I disagree. I know of few other ways to make THAT MUCH money with no accountablity whatsoever.
Think about it: $4000.00 per month per child in a facility that warehouses, let's say, 100 kids.
That's $4,800,000.00 per year gross income. I know from working in this business, the the "top-end" places (the $4000.00/month type) operate at roughly 40% profit.
So, the owner and any shareholders will whack up $1.92 million in profits yearly.
This leaves just over $2 million for pay, facilities, food, etc. That's plenty to run a campus.
Also, think about places that are charging $300.00-$700.00 per DAY for WILDERNESS "therapy." They're making an ENORMOUS profit.
They give the kids virtually no gear, no facilities, no medical treatment, hardly any food and supply a couple of uneducated, untrained staff that get paid $400.00 per WEEK. Make no mistake about it, they're RAKING IT IN.
If they weren't in it for the money, why would they resist regulation so vehemently?
I'll tell you why. It's because if they're regulated, they will have to provide actual SERVICES and ADEQUATE care, and that costs MONEY, which will have to come out of their pockets.
If they were in it to help children, don't you think they'd want to use the best possible practices as outlined by the government and professional groups like the APA?
If so, why don't they?
Anonymous:
No Gear? My kid came home from wilderness with hundreds of dollars worth of excellent backwoods gear- everything from a pack to parkas and hiking boots. He came home from TBS with a laptop and a PDA.
I don't think you have any concept of what it costs to run these places. Don't forget insurance, benefits for full-time staff, rent or mortgage for the places with extensive facilites.....
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-14 12:24:00, Anonymous wrote:
"No Gear? My kid came home from wilderness with hundreds of dollars worth of excellent backwoods gear- everything from a pack to parkas and hiking boots. He came home from TBS with a laptop and a PDA.
I don't think you have any concept of what it costs to run these places. Don't forget insurance, benefits for full-time staff, rent or mortgage for the places with extensive facilites.....
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"Hundreds of dollars" worth of stuff.. Let's see, that's about one half of one day's fee. How generous.
"A laptop and PDA," too. That's about five day's worth of fees. Very generous indeed.
"Send your kid to us for 18 months of reprogramming and receive a free laptop and PDA!"
Great advertising gimmick.
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-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2005-08-14 14:00 ]
Anonymous:
The previous poster was pointing out how full of shit you are Dysfunction- you claimed the kids were given no gear and he proved you wrong. Everything you say is just fiction and it is nice to have someone point it out. The issue wasn't wether the gear was worth the fees. It was that the kids were not out in the wilderness without equipment. You LOVE to dodge the issues, don't you. And you accuse others of doing that!!!
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