Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Concern for a "student"
Troll Control:
That's my advice to others in certain situations, yes. Go back and read the thread, and you'll see that this was someone who was already gainfully employed and was considering making a disclosure.
I advised against this because one, it wasn't germane to his line of work, and two, people can be very discriminatory when it comes to criminal records, even for minor infractions that occurred decades in the past. I didn't see any sense in this fellow opening himself up to losing his job. I think that's pretty responsible advice.
In the interest of ETHICS and working in a field where it's important to be forthright and honest, I chose to disclose to my potential employers.
Would you have preferred that I lied?
Why did you shift the focus instead of answering the question? For you, it's perfectly fine to take the risk of a child rapist having contact with your child because the facility doesn't do background checks?
Shouldn't you be more concerned with the policies of the places that hired me without a background check, rather than my complete honesty in disclosure?
Seems like you'll say anything to attack me while completely avoiding the fact that the people you support are negligent...
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Anonymous:
You know, there is nothin lower than throwing someone's past in there face to discredit them. Please stick to the original dispute. This is maddening!Many people, including myself, have a past, and its so long ago it shouldn't even be an issue! It appears to me that dysfunction was been able to straighten his/her life out. Its detestable anonymous, to sink to such depths as to spend so much of your time hunting for "dirt" on someone, then waiting for the opportunity to throw it in their face when it suits your own twisted purposes.
Seems to me it is you, anonymous, that has NO LIFE!
Troll Control:
Sticking to the issues is just not possible for these folks. They have a compulsion to avoid factual discussion.
Thanks for your input, though.
See, the facts are that I have nothing to hide nor defend. I am what I am, for better or for worse. I've overcome a lot of handicaps (self-imposed and otherwise) in my life and have become quite successful, both financially and personally.
The reason I went to college for six long years to work as a therapist is because I thought I could help kids avoid the problems that I had gone through. I was idealistic and hopeful, and fully expectant that my hopes would come true.
What I found was that the "business" of "teen help" is a nasty, for-profit, unethical, unregulated and ultimately harmful industry.
I worked at two different facilities, the second one in hopes that the first was just a "bad place." What I found, through my experience and through copious research, is that the vast majority of facilities are just like the ones for which I worked.
I left the industry because the industry itself prevented caring people like myself from actually helping any children.
The facilities are warehouses, holding pens if you will, designed solely for the purpose of extracting the maximim dollar from desperate parents with hurting children.
It is a violation of the code of ethics I swore to uphold to purposefully deny proper treatment to my clients. I felt it was no longer appropriate to continue to work in the TBS business, so I left.
I have no agenda, no dog in the race. These other folks do.
I just want to see hurting children healed.
Unfortunately, these places just aren't effective at doing so, and all of the independent research proves it, including detailed longitudinal studies conducted under the authority of the Surgeon General of the United States.
I don't deign to understand why these people will go to such lengths to defend an obviously defective modality. All I can say for sure is that they must have a vested interest to do so, or they wouldn't do it.
Anonymous:
This is more like it. How about changing the subject to how I was self destructing but still managed to turn myself around and still make something of myself in spite of all the madness of these stupid places? Now that is something worth talking about! Good for you dysfunction.
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-14 09:37:00, PFRR wrote:
"It would probably be helpful to people if you would be specific when saying you in your posts, I myself could not nor would not even want to begin to think what is going on in your head, or assume anything. There are a lot of you's out there!"
--- End quote ---
Andrea, I usually quote the particular post with which I take umbrage. I try to be as clear as possible and I think I've done so.
On another note, I need to apologize to you for being so nasty earlier. You certainly didn't deserve to take a hit like that over something so minor.
I got upset when you (mistakenly) thought I was speaking to you in an earlier post and said you'd be offended if you didn't "consider the source," which I took as an unjustified slap at me over your misconception regarding my comments.
I do believe that you do your dead-level best to work hard to raise awareness and bring about change in a very troubled treatment modality and I do not wish to diminish your effort.
Please also understand that the way I respond to hurtful anonymous trolls on a message board in no way shape or form has any bearing on how I relate to actual people in the real world. If you knew me, you'd know that.
I'm aware that I get a bit out of line sometimes, but I assure you that my emotions are stirred only because I am acutely aware of the suffering that these children endure to the end of lining the pockets of shareholders and ed cons. And certain trolls, like the ones on this thread, would seek to continue that suffering through pure ignorance or direct complicity. THAT'S what gets the reaction out of me.
It's a sad state of affairs sometimes.
In any case, once again, I apologize for jumping on you.
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