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Against My Better Judgement
Anonymous:
Cliff never got started over to my knowledge.
He's living with his wife somewhere in the Carolina's.
Now he's - :grin: really an old geezer.
Anonymous:
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I'm getting on with my life as before I found this forum, maybe the rest of you should to.
As my dad used to say "This is going nowhere fast".
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Speak for youself. Most of us never stopped living our lives, certainly not because of this forum. If that really describes you, by all means turn your computer off and read a book or something.
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marshall:
He went from leading raps & group staff one day to sitting near the front of the group (not front row though). Oldcomers / oldtimers had to walk him to the bathroom (arm around shoulder as was standard at the time) every time he went. After several weeks eventually started sitting on the side of group again occassionally but never led raps anymore. The starting over was just my assumption based upon the above. Something was definitely up. Another poster here also thought he had been started over...commenting that yes, it was strange. Just curious what the standards for such a thing might have been in regard to staff. Who knows whether it was due to shooting heroin or calling someone a cool dude. Someone also mentioned Cookie being started over at some point. Strange that sr. staff or art didn't consider the effect this might have on people on the program.
cleveland:
Was it Cliff N. who was started over? I used to live with him. He was sort of a senior guy, sort of semi-staff, but no longer led raps of any sort. And Cookie also was started over while I was there, after being senior staff for years - Cookie, Lybbi and Ginger (along with Evy) were the heart of things. I remember Cookie, with her eyes red from crying, sitting on the front row. It was unbelievable! I never knew what she had done.
Bob Ch--k, a big, funny guy who was a jr. staff member (I lived with him at Plantation Apts.), just disappeared one day.
Alex, who was on jr. staff in Cleveland, never heard of him again once we moved to Florida. His family owned restaurants and used to donate food and hire kids. Where he went, no idea.
My oldcomeer went AWOL once, and came back. Apparently, he had fallen in love. He wasn't started over, but sort of hang-dog in the group for weeks.
I lived with Ray K., when he fell in love/had an affair with Laura. Both were former staff members, with that kind of status. Ray left the Seed, and went sort of nuts; used to graffiti and yell at the seed as he drove by.
"That's not important." You were supposed to just block it out of your mind. As a result, you never know who was in or out, or what anyone's status was. Everyone lived in fear of being 'demoted' or started over, and everyone contstantly was aware of what Art's reaction was, or Lybbi's.
There have been postings here of people who were kicked out for a variety of reasons - including JU![ This Message was edited by: cleveland on 2005-08-18 08:37 ]
Anonymous:
Cookie was a part of my Seed experience, but I never really knew much about her. Seemed sweet, softspoken... I think she went to an all-girls boarding school--Miss Porter's or something. I have trouble picturing her being a leader. Did she lead raps? What was her story (history)? Why did she eventually leave?
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